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1670

Even you can’t be this simplistic. :slight_smile:

Gunda: “Hello Saudi immigrant. I notice you go to a conservative mosque. We’ll be shutting that down. You may choose between going to a western mosque or being deported. Please decide now.”

Jihadi: “Sure, Gunda, I will go to a westernized mosque. No problem. I promise not to do any terrorism, too.”

Gunda: “Great, thank you.”

Read about the next ramming attack later that evening.

I actually agree with that, but we are decades away from that happening.

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1671

My „simplistic“ approach is still better than the current one. And frankly, I view the current approach way more simplistic than mine.

1672

yes maybe it will never happen, because people are selfish and dont really care about other people getting killed unless it suits them… “it was those evil arabs” !? see? i told ya so, they must be kicked out of my country!

1673

The current approach is obviously failing. Your approach will not achieve anything imho, and I’m not into doing things just to say we did something.

I think it will happen. I just think it will take 30 years. Maybe 50.

1674

Well, if that cancer can‘t be eradicated by giving Muslims a choice, then there is only the option left to kick all Muslims out. And that’s not possible in a democracy. I still think my suggestion would work.

1675

maybe you could start building walls around all the mosques that you dont like… lol

1676

dear chat gpt…
how many people are killed worldwide by car accidents?

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), approximately 1.35 million people are killed worldwide each year in road traffic accidents. In addition to fatalities, tens of millions more are injured, often severely. Road traffic accidents remain one of the leading causes of death globally, especially among younger people. Efforts to improve road safety, such as better infrastructure, stricter traffic laws, and vehicle safety technologies, are ongoing to reduce these numbers.

how many people are killed worldwide by terrorist attacks?

The number of people killed annually by terrorist attacks can vary significantly from year to year, depending on the global security situation and the intensity of conflicts in different regions. However, a rough estimate based on recent data suggests that around 20,000 to 30,000 people die annually from terrorist-related violence worldwide.

The numbers can fluctuate, with certain years seeing higher casualties due to major attacks or conflicts, such as those related to groups like ISIS or al-Qaeda. For example, a report by the Global Terrorism Database (GTD) indicated that in 2019, there were approximately 15,000 deaths due to terrorism.

The specific death toll can depend on various factors, including geopolitical tensions, conflicts in regions like the Middle East and parts of Africa, and the activities of organized terrorist groups.

why do people not care more about preventing car accidents than about terrorist attacks?

The difference in public concern between car accidents and terrorist attacks often stems from several psychological, societal, and media-related factors:

1. Perceived Control and Familiarity

  • Car Accidents: Many people view car accidents as an inevitable part of daily life. Since car travel is so routine and pervasive, it becomes normalized, and the risk of accidents is often considered a personal responsibility (e.g., driving safely). There’s a sense of control, as people can choose to drive safely or follow traffic rules.
  • Terrorist Attacks: Terrorism, on the other hand, is seen as a more unpredictable and external threat. People feel a lack of control over these events, and the unpredictability makes it more frightening. It can happen anywhere, at any time, and often with little warning, which makes it seem more dangerous.

2. Media Coverage

  • Car Accidents: While car accidents cause many deaths, they often don’t receive the same level of media attention unless they involve celebrities, large-scale events, or particularly severe crashes. The routine nature of car accidents might make them less sensational and harder to focus on in the media.
  • Terrorist Attacks: Terrorist attacks, however, are typically covered extensively by the media, as they are often perceived as extraordinary, shocking, and deeply impactful events. They generate emotional reactions, especially if the attack involves high-profile targets, mass casualties, or complex, dramatic circumstances. Media coverage amplifies the perception that terrorism is a major and immediate threat.

3. Emotional Response and Cognitive Bias

  • Availability Heuristic: The availability heuristic refers to our tendency to be more fearful of risks that are easily recalled or vividly presented. Terrorist attacks, because they are often highly publicized and catastrophic, are more salient in people’s minds. Car accidents, despite their higher death toll, are less emotionally charged because they happen more regularly and don’t have the same dramatic, large-scale impact.
  • Fear of the Unknown: Terrorism can also tap into broader societal fears and uncertainties. People may fear the implications of a global or ideological conflict, which can seem like a more immediate threat than the more mundane risks associated with driving.

4. Lack of Immediate Action or Solutions for Car Accidents

  • While there are efforts to reduce road fatalities (through laws, car safety technology, infrastructure improvements, etc.), the causes of car accidents are complex and often seen as an unavoidable part of daily life. Addressing road safety requires long-term changes in behavior, infrastructure, and technology, and may not seem as urgent as terrorism.
  • Terrorism, on the other hand, often leads to calls for immediate and drastic action, such as military intervention, intelligence work, or changes in policy, which can create a more immediate sense of urgency and involvement.

5. Social and Political Influence

  • Terrorism as a Global Concern: Terrorism often carries political, religious, and ideological undertones, and governments and international organizations are highly motivated to address it. The political and security implications of terrorism can drive resources and policy efforts, including military action, counterterrorism strategies, and security protocols.
  • Car Accidents as a Social Issue: Road traffic deaths, though also tragic, are often perceived more as a public health issue or personal safety concern. It can be harder to mobilize mass action or government intervention with the same level of urgency as terrorism, even though it remains a major global issue.

In essence, while car accidents cause far more deaths globally, the nature of the threat, its predictability, and the emotional and media responses to terrorism make it a more pressing issue in the public eye. Addressing both requires focused and sustained efforts, but the psychological and societal dynamics contribute to why terrorism gets more attention.

1677

ai needs to take over the world and quickly too lol

1678

Agreed.

1679

Why? AI didn‘t offer any solution to both problems but just brought up what‘s already known.

1680

AI would make these ramming attacks impossible once humans are no longer permitted to drive. It would also stop over a million car accidents per year.

It would also likely be able to predict terrorist attacks through the machine learning of complex data sets, which is a bit Orwellian, but may well be worth it.

1681

How should then goods be transported to supermarkets and be transported home to the people? How should people from the countryside get effectively to and from work, hospitals, kindergarten, school etc.?

1682

In AI driven vehicles, obviously.

1683

And they can‘t get manipulated?

1684

Far less so than humans can be manipulated.

1685

Oh well, if they are more secure, then that‘s fine with me. Lots of work to be done till that is possible.

1686

Yes. 30 to 50 years more work imo. Maybe less. Things are going faster than I had thought.

1687

Yes, but the needed infrastructure is very prone for terrorist attacks. I guess some more Orwell will be needed to make that up. Which I also have no problem with, as long as democracy is still working. But democracies are under heavy attack, and in Germany this is done by every party but the AfD. The more left, the worse.

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For cars, I would expect a period in about 10 to 15 years where all new cars are going to be required to have drive-by-wire systems which don’t necessarily drive the car autonomously but require all input to be reviewed by a computer in real-time, making it impossible for us to kill innocent people either by accident or through malice. The car will simply hit the brakes.

This will likely be followed by all human driving being banned in time.

I am heavily involved in doing predictive analysis using machine-learning AI for my work. I am convinced that AI could at very least isolate high-risk areas that are currently going unseen and give existing police information about possible attacks that they couldn’t possibly see now. This could be done immediately, but would require the collection of data that most people find troubling, including money movements and geo-tracking of vehicles.

1689

I always was pro money transparency for the government to guarantee more fair tax payments, fighting black markets which also results in fair taxing, and the prevention of welfare and social funds abuse. If it also helps to improve security, all the better.