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Matthew 10:36
“A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.” -
Acts 20:29-30
“I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.” -
Micah 7:6
“For a son dishonors his father, a daughter rises up against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies are the members of his own household.” -
Psalm 41:9
“Even my close friend, someone I trusted, one who shared my bread, has turned against me.”
surely you are not suggesting that the military creates violent people?
Of course not. I am suggesting it was a coordinated effort.
yes i agree, the military is a very coordinated institution
So is the FBI.
This might have been a coordinated effort. If so, it was pretty feeble. A bunch of partygoers murdered in New Orleans and nobody dead (aside from the driver) in Florida.
They’re now saying the New Orleans guy acted alone. Who knows?
The Cybertruck guy was a 19 year veteran of the US military, a Green Beret, and had completed multiple deployments in Afghanistan.
https://www.rt.com/news/610363-vegas-cybertruck-suspect-ukraine/
Islam is cancer. It can‘t be the solution to make a fortress around every festivity, and even then it‘s not secure. We need to prevent the spread of conservative Islam.
I agree with this, but I note the total hopelessness of it. If this American-born veteran who speaks native English and makes videos of himself as a real estate agent can do this wicked act, anyone can. As far as I can see, the occasional mass murder of innocents for Allah is just the new normal. I see no way to prevent it.
train someone to kill and when they get into debt and are desperate people act all surprised that they went back to doing what they were trained to do… only in america…
way more people die needlessly in car “accidents” than “terrorist attacks” which could all be prevented and almost everyone thinks thats normal and isnt bothered by this…
Do you think only Muslims get into debt and get desperate? And yet most others don’t drive cars through crowds. ( Barcelona attack: 13 killed as van rams crowds in Las Ramblas )
How could they be prevented, Nico?
no i dont think religion matters at all, desperate people do desperate things… those car drives are just the latest popular and easy thing to do for such delusional people that see no other way to live their once comfortable life
i was referring to the car accidents
there will always be desperate deluded people trying to make things better by doing insane things
Well, in that case we should consider a ban of all conservative Islam and only Westernized Islam is allowed, like that of Seyran Ates in Berlin. But when politicians don‘t even support her by not inviting her Organisation to the regular Islamic conferences, then there indeed is no hope for liberal societies. She survived terror acts and the tax payer needs to pay for her security (which I don‘t criticize, I only criticize that our society allows her opponents to live here for that Ates needs personal security). She‘s a hero.
PS: I read today she had to close her mosque out of security reasons. Don‘t know if it‘s already open again. I bet Erdogans and the Saudi/UAE mosques are open and are still invited to those bloody cause useless Islamic conferences.
Then, as usual, you would be wrong. From ChatGPT:
Certainly, here is a concise list of major vehicle-ramming attacks targeting crowds worldwide over the past decade, along with indications of links to Islamic extremism where applicable:
- Nice, France (July 14, 2016): Truck driven into Bastille Day crowd; 86 killed, over 430 injured. Linked to Islamic extremism.
- Berlin, Germany (December 19, 2016): Hijacked truck rammed into Christmas market; 13 killed, dozens injured. Linked to Islamic extremism.
- Stockholm, Sweden (April 7, 2017): Stolen truck driven into shopping street crowd; 5 killed, 15 injured. Linked to Islamic extremism.
- Barcelona, Spain (August 17, 2017): Van plowed into Las Ramblas pedestrians; 16 killed, 152 injured. Linked to Islamic extremism.
- Toronto, Canada (April 23, 2018): Van driven into pedestrians on Yonge Street; 11 killed, 15 injured. Not linked to Islamic extremism.
- London, Ontario, Canada (June 6, 2021): Truck rammed into Muslim family; 4 killed, 1 injured. Not linked to Islamic extremism; motivated by Islamophobia.
- Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA (November 21, 2021): SUV driven through Christmas parade; 6 killed, 62 injured. Not linked to Islamic extremism.
- Zhuhai, China (November 11, 2024): SUV driven onto running track at sports center; 35 killed, 43 injured. Not linked to Islamic extremism; perpetrator angry over divorce settlement.
- Magdeburg, Germany (December 20, 2024): Car rammed into Christmas market crowd; at least 5 killed, over 200 injured. Not linked to Islamic extremism; perpetrator was a Saudi Arabian citizen.
- New Orleans, USA (January 1, 2025): Pickup truck driven into New Year’s crowd on Bourbon Street; 15 killed, 35 injured. Linked to Islamic extremism; attacker inspired by ISIS.
These incidents highlight the diverse motivations behind vehicle-ramming attacks, with some linked to Islamic extremism and others driven by different factors.
lol everything can be linked to everyone… islam is just an easy escape goat to hide the fact that all these car attacks could have been prevented by making cars safe
Ok, great, I’m in. How do you plan to do this? The people are already here. The thoughts are already in their heads. Ban their mosques and they’ll just attack quicker. Pandora’s box was opened ages ago.
Islam is not a scapegoat and you are not clever, but let’s set that aside. How would you modify cars to stop them from being used in ramming attacks, Nico?
Well, to let it go isn‘t an option. The ones who don‘t like to belong or go to a westernized mosque can choose to stay or leave, if they disagree with the values of the country they are living in and go to the many Islamic countries which teach the values those Muslims obviously prefer.
easiest way is not to allow any humans to drive cars