Curfew

Which testifies of your tastelessness. Of course what is tasteless to one is classy to another.

interesting, i thought i experienced a learning moment…

amen!

Belgium just banned leisure travel for all its citizens.

lol@leisure travel banned but not business or cargo travel and all flights in have no restrictions at all (except right now from uk, south africa or south america where you will have a 10 day quarantine and a test so if you fly from there just do an extra stop to another country that has no restrictions first to avoid that)

another ridiculous restriction and especially the exceptions are hilarious:

for example if you want to visit a family member anywhere in the world its fine, also if you want to check out a school in a country you consider attending, see a nice car somewhere? no problem, research how a bug walks or how much time it cost for a foreign leaf to fall from a tree etc etc lol

guess we will have the same nonsense in a few weeks when they find out the curfew measures dont work for some reason lol (belgium has a curfew since october)

Stanford did a study on curfews and found they had no effect. Masks work. Distancing works. Closing bars works. Curfews have no effect.

very nice! (of course its only 1 case in 1 german region so no real impact yet)

What is learning to one is conditioning to another.

Our curfews are being loosened.

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How long will you continue to "accept " life as is. Clearly for some, the answer was zero minutes as some folks couldn’t be bothered to go to costco with a mask in the very beginning of this. We have distancing, school changes, 6 feet, etc… I am more patient in general than most. I also have not been living in a lockdown. I don’t want to live like this forever and wonder how much longer before I start whining. I’m thinking one year. If things don’t change by march 2022, that will be 2 years and I will support peaceful protesting. 2 years in enough. It is not a sustainable way to live full time when you limit the 5 senses of the body for a full 2 years.

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interesting, if you can accept 1 or 2 years, why not 5, 10, 50 or forever?

I simply don’t want to live this way forever. I didn’t live this way for 40.8 years. 2 out of 80 is ok. Not 40 out of 80.

Maybe I will get used to dulled senses after 2 years. Some people are fine with that. Almost doing it on purpose.

it’s been working quite well for me for quite awhile

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I agree 100% with Dan.

When this started, there was panic. omg omg omg coronavirus. I didn’t agree with much of it then but I also didn’t think it would be as serious as it is. The US CDC predicted 60,000 dead and I figured that was less than H1N1 so it’s not really a big deal. It turned out to be far worse than that.

Now, however, it just seems like we’re in permanent lockdown mode and this is getting stupid. Canada just made it so travellers to this country must quarantine at a government-approved lockdown hotel at their own expense (over $2000 per person). Countries like the Netherlands are implementing curfews even though curfews intuitively and empirically do nothing. Beyond this, new strains are making it so people are getting into a permanent fear mode where even vaccines aren’t enough to satisfy them.

We’ve totally lost perspective. 2 million people died of COVID-19. 50 million died of other things. That’s 4% at most, and probably far less in terms of excess death since COVID is attacking the weak who might have died of other things anyway. We also need to realize that the average age of death is 84 which does change things no matter how politically incorrect it may be to say so.

Last year the World Bank said that 60 million people had been thrust into abject poverty (defined as less than $1.80 per day) because of COVID lockdowns. When you’re in that income range, getting a cold can be a death sentence because it can mean you don’t eat for a few days.

This is not sustainable. We need to accept that the world is a risky place and going outside can kill you. If you don’t want that risk, don’t go outside. Speaking for myself, I’m ready to accept that risk right now. I’m willing to accept COVID restrictions up to the point where vaccines are readily available. If they continue past that point, I think I will start disobeying. We’ll see.

its sad and interesting how humans can even have justifications for not being themselves

Once everyone in your country has had the opportunity to be vaccinated, it should be opened up domestically. If people choose to not get vaccinated, they can take that chance but shouldn’t ruin it for society.

That’s exactly right and not just for Canada. In every country, once vaccines are readily available to the public, it is insane to keep things restricted. My city appears to suck particularly badly but there’s no way this isn’t sucking everywhere in the world. We need our society back.

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I wonder if care can be turned away from the hospital if the vaccine is denied.

cuz that’s what doctors do
they don’t treat sick people
if they judge that the patient deserves to be sick