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It is clear. The children born here are US citizens.

He’s not trying to take anything from them that I know of.

Birthright citizenship: Judge blocks Trump’s ‘blatantly unconstitutional’ executive order | CNN Politics https://search.app/ioX3CdnDxbYDcKt66

It could be so his followers can pound their chest. Either way, he can’t win this one. 14th amendment.

or you dont want to apply it to what you wrote, i will help you:

no, males describe biological anomalies, but its not a sex
they still all have x (fermale) chromosomes and those y (male) chromosomes are not necessary at all and are slowly disappearing from our human race

I can see you haven’t been here for a few days, so might have missed the news the last few days. See link above.

I don’t trust anything the CNDNC says about Trump. They twist everything to their satisfaction.

Oh. This is all over everything. This is not a cnn thing.

Protecting The Meaning And Value Of American Citizenship – The White House https://search.app/UvSXF2wnCaouHQkn9

Right on the white house website.

Well, you talk about a possible future in a few million years. Till then we still need a man and a woman to procreate, hence one who produces sperm and the other one eggs. Regardless how many X and/or Y Chromosoms some may have and if their anatomy/genitals look different from the norm.

not really, we already can store sperm for decades and we already have the tech to “create” sperm and egg cells in labs which will likely be perfected within a few decades to successfully create babies… just need a female host and even that will be replaced in time

https://www.createfertility.co.uk/blog/scientific-breakthrough-made-to-create-sperm-egg-cells

I wonder if Trump has ever heard of Klinefelters before. I can’t imagine he would have.

he would if it was on a mcdonalds menu

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But that’s a whole different issue, Nico. I at least only talked about natural procreation.

so was i if your definition of naturally is something that also happens in nature
if your definition is only in nature where also no humans exist then i only talked partly about it

You still need sperm and eggs to get babies. If with real humans (regardless if without or with anomalies), or without humans produced in a lab in a possible future.

nope:

just a matter of time…

If this Emilia Perez movie wins a bunch of oscars, I wonder if people will start flipping out. It seems nobody could stand the movie, except for the academy. Maybe they are trying to get trans into the mainstream.

True, but at this time, Gunda’s statement that “You still need sperm and eggs to get babies” is 100% correct. And as far as this idiocy about the occasional intersex person goes, the fact is that laws are always made for the large majority of people. We make laws assuming you can see and hear. The fact that some can’t see or hear won’t change our laws.

i would say incorrect since there have been instances, what you both would call “anomalies”, where that wasnt the case:

sure laws are usually made for the majority, but they need to be fair and applied to all humans and if they cannot then its our human duty to change or discard them

just like how we add lights and sounds to a zebra crossing so those that cant see or hear can safely cross a road

So easy to make things a black and white issue when colors, special effect sounds, and flashing lights all cause seizures so easily in you two.

We can’t move forward politically for the silliest things, seizures, heartburn, swallowing, and even farts.