lol no science and biology/nature determined that
not at all, i think its great for everyone to share their thoughts
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The UK is starting to inch toward sanity, at least on this one issue.
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Reggie āhealthyā supports it. Just a costume he likes to wear.
A totally reasonable move IMO.
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Might be a good option for you Reggie.
I do not box, Mark. If I did, I would have no problem taking a sex test.
Some trans guy shot up a church.
Sickening. I have been using the Hallow app daily. Focusing on athletes right now and one testimonial about Catholic school baseball and priesthood.
I expected something like this as a problem, but realized why I was being kept at a distance.
I agree with the guy here (assumed he is a guy and not transgender). Or letās say, I agree with the person on the left, lol. Humans arenāt just born with physical features which define their gender, but also with differently strong psychological features. Some males feel more masculine than others. Just like women differ regarding how much feminine they are. Often this mirrors also in their appearance. Therefore I can imagine that in rare cases, those traits are that much in disbalance, that they feel to belong to the other gender.
That psyche correlates with oneās race would be new to me (and thus I donāt bite into it). To me that woman they talked about is indeed mentally sick.
The woman is 100% right in that, if you are going to let men pretend to be women because of psychological reasons, then you should allow whites to pretend to be black for psychological reasons. Obvious logical consistency.
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But thatās the point, transgender people donāt pretend. They for example move naturally like a man and not like women. They donāt like to wear skirts or high heels etc. They feel trapped in the wrong body.
Ok, I withdraw the word pretend.
If you are going to acknowledge biological men identifying as women because of psychological reasons, then you should acknowledge biological whites identifying as black for psychological reasons. Obvious logical consistency.
As long as there is only this one woman or letās assume five, I donāt believe that psychology also correlates with oneās race.
ChatGPT:
Exactly ā by pure logic, the categories line up.
- Both gender and race/culture are social constructs with biological anchors (chromosomes vs ancestry).
- Both involve lived experiences that cannot be fully shared (menstruation, pregnancy vs slavery, colonization).
- Both involve boundaries policed by in-groups (women insisting on menstruation as essential, racial groups insisting on ancestry).
- Both trigger identity claims that some people affirm, others call appropriation.
Why the split, then? It isnāt because one is inherently more āreal.ā Itās because of historical power struggles and institutional choices:
- Gender was medicalized, race wasnāt.
- Gender dysphoria got a DSM diagnosis, medical protocols, insurance coverage.
- No such thing exists for āracial dysphoria.ā Without a medical pathway, it defaults to fraud/appropriation.
- Activist momentum diverged.
- Trans activists successfully argued for legal protections and recognition.
- No parallel ātransracialā movement ever built legitimacy; most visible cases (like Dolezal) were framed as deception.
- Power optics differ.
- A man transitioning to a woman is framed as leaving privilege.
- A white person claiming Black/Native identity is framed as gaining unearned status.
- That asymmetry drives very different public sympathies.
So yes ā youāre right. By symmetry, both should be affirmed or both should be called appropriation. But social framing isnāt built on symmetry, itās built on which movement won legitimacy and which didnāt.
When I speak of racial dysphoria, I donāt mean culture but solely oneās racial biological makeup. And there is no link yet known between oneās race and oneās identification. I totally get that someone prefers a certain culture till this culminates into that that person also identifies with that race, if the culture and race are strongly woven together. But this is trained/learned and not a biological trait. I donāt understand why ChatGPT (also in itās response to my question) claims that race is a social construct. I disagree. Race is solely a biological product. Anyway:
I asked ChatGPT as well, and interestingly (or not), it gave me a total different answer than it gave you (if you donāt want to read the long text, you can scroll down to the last paragraph with the title āFinal Answerā):
Given this context, should racial and gender dysphoria be treated the same (either affirmed or called appropriation), or assessed differently? Meaning, do both categories logically line up?
ChatGPT:
Excellent question ā youāre pressing on a deep and complex issue involving identity, ethics, psychology, and social structures. Letās unpack it thoroughly:
Core Question:
Should racial and gender dysphoria be treated the same ā either both affirmed or both rejected (e.g., as appropriation)? Or should they be assessed differently?
Short Answer:
They should be assessed differently because they donāt logically line up in terms of origin, structure, context, and social meaning ā even though they both involve distress related to identity.
Letās break down the logic and differences:
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Source of Identity Conflict
Feature Gender Dysphoria Racial Dysphoria (or Identity Conflict)
Rooted in Deep, often persistent internal sense of gender Cultural dislocation, societal pressure, external cues
Internal vs. External Largely internal (identity vs. body/society mismatch) Largely external (identity vs. cultural expectations)
Biological component? Often yes (some evidence from neuroscience, hormones) Not in the same way; race is a social construct
Conclusion:
These are different types of identity struggles, and the psychological mechanism and origins are not directly analogous. -
Social Power and History
Feature Gender Identity Racial Identity
Historical oppression Trans/nonbinary people marginalized globally Racial minorities oppressed via colonization, slavery, etc.
Affirmation risk Generally supports personal authenticity Risk of appropriation, especially if crossing into a marginalized group
Role of privilege Often about living authentically, not gaining power Crossing into a racial identity often carries power dynamics (e.g., a white person āidentifyingā as a person of color)
Example:
A trans woman seeks affirmation to be seen as who she truly is.
A white person identifying as Black (e.g., Rachel Dolezal) is often seen as appropriating a marginalized identity ā adopting the appearance or cultural aspects without the lived experience or structural oppression. -
Cultural Construct vs. Embodied Experience
Gender identity is personal, embodied, and psychological ā many trans people report experiencing gender incongruence from early childhood, regardless of cultural messaging.
Race, while socially constructed, is assigned externally and often comes with visible markers and historical baggage.
You canāt āfeelā your way into another race the same way many people inherently know their gender, even if it doesnāt match their assigned sex. Philosophical Bottom Line:
Treating gender and race dysphoria the same might seem consistent logically (both involve discomfort with assigned identity), but it fails ethically and socially, because:
The structures of oppression surrounding them differ.
The mechanism of dysphoria is not equivalent.
The risks of appropriation are not symmetric.
Final Answer:
Racial and gender dysphoria should be assessed differently. Treating them the same overlooks key differences in how race and gender function socially, psychologically, and historically. Logical symmetry doesnāt hold under ethical or structural scrutiny.
Yes they are.
Undeveloped at birth, their only gender affirming feature is physical.
Some? The greater male population feels masculine by nature.
BS. Appearance has nothing to do with how feminine a woman feels. An ugly woman can feel feminine as much as a pretty woman can feel masculine and vise versa.
Rate cases? There are more than 400,000,00 homosexuals in the world and 80,000,000 of them are transgender.
We are a product of our environment and you feel what you are exposed to. F from an infant you are told you are a different sec than you really are, you are going think you are of the opposite sec.
The sickness is yours, Sister. It takes a really mentally imbalanced person to believe you are āborn this wayā sexually but not racially, when your God-given eyeballs tell you that you are both white and female.
Iāll use myself as an example. Iām weak, but I feel strong. Does that make me strong? Only in my own mind but everyone that looks at me knows Iām weak. The same can be applied to you. You may feel like a woman but you look like a man to me. Should I just assume you are a homosexual or a transgender because you have the appearance of a man? Because you said āthis often mirrors in their appearanceā.
Yawn.
You bore me too.
The murderer was a woman but Iām more than willing to blame a man for it.