The Coup

you are truly insane

If it makes you feel normal to make me insane, it’s the least I can do to help you cope with your own mental issues.

Well that’s no comfort for me to have a crackpot woman offer to “help” me.

I didn’t offer to help. You volunteered me if you scroll up and review the posts. My offer to help you doesn’t go beyond taking your bottle of scotch away and cracking you over the head with it.

interesting
i ran across a reference to soros in a book you shouldn’t waste your time reading
a certain Dr. Paul Farmer was engaged in treating multiple drug resistant TB in peru and haiti
soros gave him more money than you will ever see
and here i thought soros was a pedophile
turns out he is an atheist
small world

No problem.

Good to know.

Chansley said he’s coming to terms with events leading to the riot and asked people to “be patient with me and other peaceful people who, like me, are having a very difficult time piecing together all that happened to us, around us, and by us. We are good people who care deeply about our country.”

you can’t just say it to make it true
trump does that all the time
chansley is a self-absorbed frightened child who has reached the age where he must be spanked
not a good person
a guy who thinks congress is a good place for a tail-gate party
not a good person

peaceful my ass

Do you think it was wrong for Congress to distance itself so much from the people in tone and rhetoric and decision making? And about the money. As if they are actually producing anything or doing work comparable to others?

Do you think their attitude has changed towards people as they are not so distant and can have debt collectors knocking on their doors as well as easily as they can indebt people and limit income?

What about all the automation?

The Incompetence Lasted to the Very End

Trump advertises himself as a billionaire. Certainly he has raised tens of millions of dollars for his legal-defense fund. Why did he not have good lawyers at his second impeachment trial? Yes, he is an unattractive defendant in many ways. But good lawyers regularly accept unattractive defendants.

The problem seems to be that Trump affirmatively prefers bad lawyering. Or rather, that he values good lawyering less than he values aggressive and truculent lawyering. And after all, Trump did not particularly need good lawyering at his impeachment trial. He can count on sufficient Republican votes in the Senate to acquit him almost regardless of what his lawyers do or say. So it probably will not matter much to Trump that his lawyers often seemed baffled or ignorant or untruthful or incompetent. The former president is focused on the result, and that result was fixed in his favor before any proceeding began.

But the bad conduct and poor quality of the Trump legal defense does matter in another way. This second Trump trial, like the first, is a mighty constitutional and political moment. The trial has riveted the attention of millions of people this week and will surely hold that attention for decades to come. It has presented the country with images of the contending sides in this dispute. One of those sides—the House impeachment managers—is composed of men and women of different backgrounds, ages, and experience, yet all of the highest ability and professionalism. They conducted themselves with dignity and decorum. They had prepared meticulously. They studied the issues and the law; they and their staffs curated a sprawling mass of material into a clear, coherent, and powerful narrative of events.

On the other side were three older men, ill-prepared and ill-informed, unable to answer such basic questions—posed by Republican senator Bill Cassidy and then again by Senator Mitt Romney—as, When did President Trump learn that the life of his loyal vice president was in danger? One of those lawyers, van der Veen, often seemed to lose control of his emotions and his train of thought.

Over more than 20 hours, the trial offered a sharp contrast between people who excelled at their jobs and people who floundered in their jobs. In that, the trial aptly symbolized so much that has occurred over four Trump years. Along with the corruption and the authoritarianism, the brutality and the bigotry, the Trump presidency was characterized by a persistent drip, drip, drip of slovenliness and carelessness: matters as minor as the frequent spelling errors in White House press releases and as deadly as the horrifying mismanagement of the coronavirus pandemic.

The Trump administration was staffed from top to bottom by people who were bad at stuff: the Scott Pruitts at the Environmental Protection Agency; the Richard Grenells and John Ratcliffes at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence; the Matthew Whitakers at the Department of Justice; the Michael Flynns at the National Security Council; the Sebastian Gorkas, Jared Kushners, and Ivanka Trumps on the White House staff.

The administration’s incompetence frequently arose from its malice. That was the coronavirus story: Trump interpreted the pandemic as a criticism of himself, and dealt with the pandemic the way he habitually dealt with criticism: by refusing to acknowledge its existence. But as often as not, the incompetence was just and only that, the blundering that resulted from people in over their heads holding positions they should never have held.

The Trump administration and its supporters endlessly railed against the disdain and condescension of their political opponents. In a June 2020 interview with The Wall Street Journal, Trump interpreted the basic precaution of mask wearing during a pandemic as a slight against him and his supporters.

In a column back in 1991, the commentator Chris Matthews memorably described the Democratic Party as the “mommy” party and the Republican Party as the “daddy” party. “‘Daddy’ locks the doors at night and brings home the bacon,” Matthews wrote. “‘Mommy’ worries when the kids are sick and makes sure each one gets treated fairly.” In this scheme, Daddy might be gruff and harsh—but at least he knew what he was doing.

What happens, though, when Daddy is manifestly clueless? When he bellows and bullies to compensate for his own inadequacies? That’s where America often seemed to be during the Trump years. That’s how it was during the Trump trial.

Candidate Trump and President Trump regularly grumbled that the world was laughing at America. They think we are so stupid, he would say, with all the bitterness of a man who imagined that an unnamed “they” was thinking those negative thoughts about him too. The first few weeks of the Biden administration have begun to correct the dismal national self-image that Trump promoted. Suddenly American science, technology, and management seem again to be leading the way. Yesterday, President Joe Biden announced that the United States had secured enough vaccine doses for 300 million Americans. Today, the U.S. administered 2 million doses in a single day. Good-at-stuff America is back, after a long hiatus.

So something is fitting about the fact that the same day, February 12, Trump’s team put, once again, on national display a farewell image of bad-at-stuff America. President Trump associated his political party with all of his personal faults, including his trademark snarling mismanagement. He hired lawyers who shared those faults. Tomorrow, Republicans will have their last, best chance to separate themselves from Trump. But whatever Trump’s party does, the country is separating from him. The ugly and inept performance of the Trump legal team broadcast to the world a final, spectacular view of what and whom a dynamic America is putting behind itself—let’s hope forever, but at least for now.

frum the atlantic

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There are ways to prevent this from happening again. First not re-electing Trump who will surely do the same thing again. Better security measures.

And then the behavior of the people in that building in regards to addressing the public. A lot of those people are millionaires and own several properties. Why do they act so hurt about giving even $1000 a month for people to survive? DO they reason they produce the money by their intellectual or work output? What is the reasoning? These people already have guns and you can’t keep them so poor that they cannot purchase a weapon. Take the guns away or ban open carry and revoke concealed carry permits. Limit the number of guns people can own.

But don’t try to make it so they don’t even have ten dollars extra a month they can’t save up to buy one. I’m sure churches have figured relieving people of their money prevents them from spending on drugs or weapons or something dangerous or immoral.

It’s about the money with these people.

Don’t even get me started…this past 4 years were indescribable for those of us with functioning brains in this country. Hoffe ich das alles Dir gut geht. Yeah I know it’s not Dutch, but it’s close enough. :wink:

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True. Very difficult dealing with the true believers (morons).

They should have had something to put on his record to prevent him from running again. He definitely would pull the same thing to extend his term in office if elected, but he would also pull it during the election if allowed to campaign again.

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air traffic controllers speak english
cuz we controlled the sky over germany
plus gunda knows german
ewwww

It’s interesting how differently I perceive the Germans and Dutch. The Germans never run from a fight. The Dutch always do. Anyway, good to see you online, Matt. Hopefully your nation can recover. Hopefully the world can. It’s been a rough few years.

nice to hear from you and yes talking german is just like speaking dutch (while chewing glass and trying to keep your mouth closed while doing that lol)

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real dutch never give up or run, we do walk away from / trade away poisonous areas like america lol

but its ok, its just your senility talking;)

Tell that to the refugees at Srebrenica, Nico. :slight_smile:

soldiers lol
those that think they can save anyone by picking up weapons are not very smart, so i cannot consider them to be real dutch…