I support Republicans and Dutch people not getting vaccines.
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And just like that the far left supports gun use.
That is an inaccurate statement. Itâs gun nuts that canât have it both ways. They had no issue with Kyle Rittenhouse. Trump was successful in calling half the country the enemy and justifying murder. Good job supporting him. I thought Bush Jr. was the worst US president of my lifetime, but Trump has taken that over. Bush probably only did 3 awful things. Invade Iraq. Invade Afghanistan. Lower taxes on the rich. I donât remember him supporting murdering civilians.
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Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself against the same kind of people that are protesting law enforcement. He was not resisting law enforcement.
Clinton was successful in calling half the country deplorable.
Thank you.
Thatâs interesting since Iâve heard many times that Bush murdered Iraqi civilians in his invasion. Trump lost no civilians and only the drug dealing kingpinâs security when he invaded Venezuela.
Thatâs true about Bush. He did cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands. That shouldnât be forgotten. He was definitely awful.
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Lol at law enforcement. This is not about law enforcement. This is about purposefully causing chaos.
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He cancelled his lifetime membership in the NRA over their support of cop killer bullets. He failed to catch Osama. He raised taxes 53 times after saying no new taxes. âRead my lips no new taxes.â He then said, âRead My Hipsâ . That niggerhead stone at his ranch was ugggh and the lies about WMD at Iraq was bad. Was at 90% in the polls and lost the next election.
Nice hodge podge of lies there.
this is not true:
civilians killed during strikes while trump was/is president:
Afghanistan
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Civilian deaths from U.S.-led airstrikes and related fighting in Afghanistan also increased under Trump, with some reports indicating hundreds to over a thousand civilian deaths during his term (with annual civilian deaths in 2017â2019 averaging quite high)
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Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Libya, etc.
Independent trackers attribute hundreds more civilian fatalities in other theaters (Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Libya), although numbers vary widely and documentation is incomplete.
"Venezuelan officials reported up to about 80â100+ total deaths from the U.S. attack, including military and civilian casualties
While there are no definite official counts of civilian deaths, these are confirmed:
Rosa Helena GonzĂĄlez â killed when an airstrike hit a residential apartment building in Catia La Mar.
ohana RodrĂguez Sierra â a civilian woman killed near El Hatillo when she was struck by explosives during the attack.
Rough Overall Range (Independent Estimates)
According to aggregated estimates from open-source tracking (e.g., Airwars and conflict monitoring analyses), civilian deaths linked to U.S. military actions during Trumpâs presidency may fall in an approximate range of:
~9,000 to ~15,000 civilian deaths overall
This figure combines estimates from multiple conflicts (Iraq/Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen/Somalia/Pakistan/Libya).
Important caveats:
- These are independent estimates, not official counts. Official U.S. figures tend to be much lower or unreported due to changes in reporting rules early in Trumpâs presidency.
- Methodologies differ between organizations, and some deaths remain âunverifiedâ or âlikelyâ rather than confirmed.
- These figures reflect civilian deaths associated with broad military operations, not just drone strikes or a single campaign.
Bottom line for airstrikes:
There are no global official consolidated numbers; however, considering that tens of thousands of civilians were killed each year in conflicts worldwide, the total civilian victims of airstrikes and military bombing across all wars from 2017â2021 is likely in the hundreds of thousands or more, when conflicts in Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, Ethiopia, Sudan, Myanmar, and others are included â because even in a single conflict year, civilian deaths can exceed 30,000â40,000.
note: those are only the number of civilians killed because of trumps direct military actions, not all the civilians that died / are dying because of all the weapons sold by usa or all his actions/inactionsâŚ
for example think about: the impact of trump reducing food/medicine aid worldwide, his handling of covid, tarrifs, cuts in healthcare, protests, transportation / aircraft safety and all his other policy changes and ordersâŚ
he is responsible for hundreds of millions of civilian deaths worldwide!
I assure you, no one will forget it since we were scammed with nonsense about weapons of mass destruction when there were no wmdâs.
Pity your reply wasnât.
I stand corrected: there were 2 and more than likely, they were spouses or some other relation to the security team within the regime.
The rest of your post is long winded nonsense that isnât even part of the subject we are on.
you stated: âtrump lost no civiliansâ; so i showed you he is responsible for the death of maaaaaaaaaaaaany civilians
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I was referring to Venezuela but since you insist on painting Trump a murdererâŚ
Thatâs rightâŚI remember, a suicide bomber killed 13 but that was in 2021. During Trumps administration there were 45 combat related deaths. Your comment reflects UN data which has indicated international forces caused a majority of these harms.
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who provided most of those weapons?
Idk but the Royal Netherlands Air Force provided F-16âs for more than 10 years.
43% of all the weapons in the world are sold by usa⌠including those f-16âs (lockheed martin sold those)
You have a problem taking responsibility for your part in the Afghanistan lies. Those planes were purchased for and used by the Netherlands and then donated to aid Afghanistan in fighting the war against the Netherlands and other NATO members.
Letâs not forget the U.K., Canada and Germany provided aid to Afghanistan through the Red Cross, CARE, Islamic Relief and direct funding for security, development (health, education, infrastructure) and humanitarian relief, often channeling funds via large multi-donor trust funds like the Afghanistan Reconstruction Trust Fund (ARTF). They also provided weapons, training and equipment to Afghanistan spending billions supplying arms like rifles, explosives, tanks, and missiles for the build up of the Afghan National Army to give the appearance of a fair fight against them.
ofcourse i do since i play no part in any afghan lies or in any buying or using of your american weapons
Almost all western countries helped to rebuild Afghanistan after the Taliban, Michele. The whole US game plan was to arm and train the moderate Afghan government so they could fight the Taliban. Then the Taliban defeated all western forces, including the US, and took the weapons we gave to the moderate pro-west Afghan government.
With the exception that I thought we actually fought with the Taliban, that is exactly the way I see it. The only problem I have with what Nico is saying is that the Netherlands played a part, used and donated weapons in the war just as the U.S. did but he now wants to pretend itâs personal and he hasnât personally done anything wrong in order to keep from admitting that the Netherlands was actively participating.