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Okay, now that we understand you’re not speaking literally (we all knew you weren’t) Why are you painting her desperate? Do you think she’s so desperate she would do anything for :heart:?

Such a positive view. Imagine doing what you love, reading a book every single day and adding to your account as wisdom and misery both grow in your heart and mind.

I know, marriage takes a lot of work from both sides. You seem to be speaking from experience. Have you been married or is that the way your parents marriage is/was?

lol now Gunda, you know Reggie knows what love is because he’s not a billionaire.

I think so. Are you saying you don’t like anyone whose view you disagree with?

I think most people would do almost anything for love, Michele. And I think the ones who wouldn’t are stupid.

Making the best of things is the only route to happiness, not just in marriage but in all aspects of life. Nico is many things but he has never struck me as happy. He is an extremist on almost all topics, and extremists are never happy. They can’t be.

And what desperate thing did you do to win your love?

What crap and it is entirely too early for such nonsense. Extremism is simply passion for one’s own view imo. Middle of the road, keep my options open view that imo would take a mental toll.

any worthwhile relationship takes work from both sides but i dont consider marriage a relationship or worthwhile
i think its more like a desperate attempt/prison sentence for insecure indoctrinated people

nope

yes, i think they could/would have been much happier if they were not married (just like everyone else that resorted to that outdated cultish practice)

no, “making the best of things” is basically the same as giving up on happiness and settling for something else

i think thats because you pretend to be happy but in reality you are not and therefore others cant / are not allowed to be happy either lol

who is extreme? someone like me who believes we are all equal, that we have the right to our own opinions and that they all matter equally? or someone like you, who believes they are better than others and doesnt value opinions of others unless they are the same as yours? :wink:

If that’s true, why aren’t you in a relationship?

Does that mean marriage caused them to not love each other? Because you’re sort of indicating that marriage was the reason for their unhappiness.

In reality, you are both unhappy because you can’t look at even one thing in the world and describe love without acknowledging the Source for Love.

If we were all equal, you would not be pointing that out.

If you believe we are all equal, why are you pointing out that Reg is better than you or that your opinion has no value?

I didn’t do anything desperate. I didn’t have to. Would I have? Probably.

No, Nico, making the best of things is being happy with what you have, not wasting time on what you might still want. I wish it hadn’t rained today, but it did, so I made the best of things and got a lot done around the house. I am happy with my day, even though it didn’t go as I had hoped.

Projection much? lol. I have never been happier. My marriage is solid, my money situation is great, I live in the most beautiful city in the world, and I have more friends that I can count. My health is solid. I spend my days working on interesting research projects and I spend my weekends volunteering at local schools and fire halls. I travel everywhere and still write better code than ChatGPT (although I admit not for long). I might just have the perfect life, whether you believe it or not. I’m quite sure you believe it. You just wish it wasn’t true.

Someone who believes that everyone who commits suicide is a coward is extreme.
Someone who believes there should be no government sanction for yelling fire in a crowded theatre is extreme. Someone who believes there should be no government sanction for saying I will pay you $1000 for something and then not paying it is extreme. Someone who believes there should be no government sanction for going up to little black kids and yelling “nigger” at them is extreme. Someone who believes there should be no government sanction for yelling “I have a bomb” on an airplane is extreme. And someone who believes the appropriate sanction for that is to be mocked by the other passengers is just stupid.

Because no woman will have him, obviously. Probably no man, either.

Goal!

Ok he got one thing right. :slight_smile:

lol iam in many relationships…

i dont think so lol why do you assume they dont love each other?

lol i did no such thing, why do you assume they are unhappy? i just stated that i think they could/would have been much happier without marriage

lol thats because your delusional believes makes you think you own the copyright to “love”

equal doesnt mean identical…

lol i definitely did no such thing, i stated that i think he believes he is better than others and doesnt value opinions of others (i didnt even mention me)

lol i think thats coping/avoiding; in reality you are not happy about that rain at all and ignored it… making the best of it, would be to capture some of that rain and “cook coffee” with it or stand outside and take a shower :wink:

lol no i think hoping and wishing is a waste of time and energy and not very healthy but i do believe that for some people pretending is still the best thing they can do; otherwise they would go (even more) insane and cause a lot of damage to themselves and others

no, i think thats just a sane person that truly believes in free speech and who is not a hypocrite :wink:

now the persons that think free speech is only for them or the people that actually do those things, yes those are a bit extreme…

I disagree on that as a general statement. At least in most Western societies, most choose to marry out of love and less because society didn‘t let them any other choice if they want to have legal sex and (for women) to get at least a bit respect from society and to become at least a bit economical protected.

Divorce is for both gender relatively easy to obtain as well in most Western societies. Therefore I don‘t see why you consider marriage also in Western countries generally not as a relationship but as a desperate attempt/prison Center for insecure indoctrinated people.

People also can stuck in a non-married relationship which fulfills your description.

Of course, also here some only marry for tax reasons or because they reached an age where they panic having to be alone when getting sick or having to die. But put those pathetic aside for a moment.

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Someone who wouldn‘t try to prevent someone from committing suicide by jumping from a bridge when passing by, is also extreme. Worse, he lacks the needed empathy. To be honest, such a person is an arse.

Just like someone who considers a whole gender as subordinant, while he obviously can‘t live without them. And this after a decade of bashing relationships based on commitment.

Someone who supports Bernie Sanders, hates Trump, praises health care for everyone, who allegedly is pro free speech and hates Israel, but sees nothing wrong with offering tax haven deals for investors in his company and to consider relocating the company for example to the UAE, is also quite extreme.

Don’t be silly, Gunda. Literally 99.9% of people passing by don’t try to intervene when someone tries to commit suicide by jumping from a bridge. It is, by definition, not extreme when everyone behaves this way. You may think it’s bad, but it’s not extreme.

You just described most people under 30.

I thought about doing that and took no action. I have never owned a non-Canadian company, and all my companies have always paid tax correctly. That’s not even slightly extreme.

its a choice yes but not one that is usually given to kids; they are told by everyones that when they grow up they should marry when they want their true love and to have kids… so after people age and they want and need something else than marriage they often still get married…

yes of course you can have and get stuck in other relationships as well but kids are usually not indoctrinated to have those

yes divorce is available but thats considered a failure and then the true love fairytale ends and it usually gets painful and messy when kids are involved

you can ignore people that get married because they are scared to live alone but thats probably the majority lol

That probably would have been a waste.

You always take it one step too far and kill any thought about how happy you really are. Who are you trying to convince? Your life is your testimony. There’s no reason for anyone to believe you are anything but happy. So why you have to list your happiness reasons and then point out everyone else is jealous of your happiness implies you are not really happy at all and I am sorry for your sadness. I wish there was something we could do to make things better for you.

Well…in reality, someone who commits suicide is usually only thinking of themselves. If they were really thinking about anyone else at all, they would not take their own life.

All those things fall under free speech. Who should government sanction? Friends and family of the guilty party?

Reg, if you can get a woman, and keep her, I’m sure there is hope for Nico.

That’s the image you paint.

Not at all, Nico. I only believe I know the Source.

Okay, well anytime a person posts something negative about someone else, they are pointing out that persons flaws. Unfortunately, I’m probably going to have to bring that to your attention when you do because I don’t want you to point out his flaws. He’s really good at pointing out his own every time he opens his big fat mouth and simultaneously inserts his feet.

I agree. Waste nothing.

:flushed:. I guess one would need the backstory to have a complete picture of this statement.

Agreed.

I don’t think anyone is jealous of me. Nobody wants to be anyone else. I listed my reasons because Nico childishly stated that I wasn’t really happy (and you have now repeated this childish nonsense). As with Nico, I don’t think you really believe I’m unhappy, either.

More nonsense but I don’t care to argue it.

You’re as crazy as Nico sometimes. If you seriously think yelling “I have a bomb” on a plane is “free speech”, you’re a nutjob. Again, I don’t care to argue it.

I’m not sure of that at all. I can’t imagine him convincing a normal woman to be in a relationship with him. Time will tell. I think he’s about ten years younger than I am so he still has a few years to try. Gunda, too. I wish them both well. As I said to Gunda, life is way better when you’re not doing it alone.

i consider “getting” a woman to be caveman/religious nut/horny teen-talk lol
i also dont want or need your hope, thats a waste of time and energy

nonsense, i think your brain painted that

no copyright lol really? i highly doubt you believe “true love” to be even possible without your god…

lol please do bring it to my attention, but its not necessarily a negative thing… i just repeated what he said so himself; that he believes he is better than others and that their opinions have no value and i believe he believes that nonsense :wink:

lol i just believe that even in the most open marriages there are too many restrictions that limit happiness, so everyone would be happier if they werent married

iam in several relationships with women and i didnt even have to convince anyone? whether they are normal? probably not lol i usually stay away from “the boring type”

seriously… why would anyone have to “try to convince” anyone to be in a relationship?! lol just be yourself and those that like you will stick around :wink:

oh if by that you mean you hope i will get married then please keep your curses to yourself lol if its just a general well wishing then thats a waste of time and energy but its appreciated and may you find your happiness too :wink:

The point is, that you preach water but drink wine. And that‘s extreme indeed.

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This percentage is not what I have read. The majority would intervene. I once walked my dog under a bridge where some guy sat and who got saved by the police as he didn‘t dare to jump yet didn‘t move. I would have called the police, but the police was there already, obviously alarmed by other people. A co-worker of mine also once saved a young lad by pulling him from the edge of a bridge in her lunch break.

To generally say to not help in such a situation is an extreme position.

True that. :laughing:

Not generally. I just find a person not likable who claims someone is subordinate regarding one’s gender or race for example.