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It‘s really not that I don‘t want to, but I really thought my post is clear enough, Nico. Such reactions are pretty natural. If those statements were seriously meant literally, then every man would have to loose some hand or an eye eventually in one’s life. That makes no sense and therefore it has to be only metaphors.

uh huh i understood what you meant but to me that sounds like your reason for believing its a metaphor is basically:
“the people that wrote this bible cant be that nonsensical to actually believe everyone needs to lose a hand or an eye?! so this has to be a metaphor”

which is indeed natural and logical if you assume those people are sane but to me it seems pretty weird since i think those people believe in a looooooooooot of nonsense…
but again if thats your reasons, thats what they are lol so ok and i appreciate you trying to explain it again :wink:

Oh scheiße.

Nico gives as much as he gets.

Anyway, I honestly believe Nico is a low-iq, intellectually dishonest person of no merit. I honestly believe he can’t argue credibly with intelligent, knowledgeable people. He simply does not have that ability. It’s not just his word craft, either. He just doesn’t understand the concepts that make up a credible argument on any side. I don’t care if some find that insulting or primitive. It is my honest assessment.

I will not debate it further. Both of you can have the last words (on this topic, in this thread – I don’t plan to abandon BBAD). Go ahead and call me primitive and fat. Primitive might be somewhat true at times. At 85 kilos, fat won’t be true today, but I go through cycles that way and it may be true again in a couple of months, especially around Christmas.

how generous and wise of you to give the last say to others lmao
but nice! in that case i will share how i experienced what happened here since this has happened many times before over the years… maybe everyone might learn and grow a little from this? (lol not likely but there is always room for improvement) :

being still anoyed about a previous discussion we had, you go on the attack and create an argument where there is and was none…

then you get proven wrong (as usual), so you try to hide that by trying to insult me some more and demand proof and ask me to defend a nonsense position…

naturally i gladly assist and provide you with some evidence, knowing full well you never had any intention in the first place to listen to this dumb dutchie lol or looking closely at what the evidence is about, because your egotistical narrowminded personality only wanted to humiliate me and show your “superior intelligence” (lol after all these years and with your “huge” brain you should have known many years ago that iam way too dumb and stubborn to be humiliated by anyone…)

so surprise surprise you dont want to accept the evidence i provide and so you try to focus on a technicality in one of the extra lines i gave as evidence while ignoring the rest and continue to try to insult me some more which i happily reflect by showing you who you are lol

then you freak out a bit more… blaming stupid me, act out like a hurt child, whining even at gunda who even agreed and defended you but because she had 1 point of criticism she gets it too and the entire world is against poor reggie lol

so you finally make your usual wise decision and retreat in a huff and a puff

you are something else my silly dutch brother… i can appreciate and believe that you believe that you share “your honest assessment” (even if i think it says a lot more about you than about me… and to me its worth exactly the same as both the quran and the bible; interesting but nonsense lol), but i like you anyways…

i would never call you primitive or overweight, since i see you as a misguided, intelligent, caring, funny and equal human being who just has some difficulties showing that and even more difficulty with realising that he is not as important or intelligent as he thinks he is :wink:

may you find inner peace and deal with your insecurities hugs

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I still not agree with you regarding that specific Bible quote as well as on Islam. I also didn’t follow this other issue you mentioned between you and Reggie, but I agree to most of the things you said about Reggies weaknesses in discussions and how he views orhers as well as himself. Him being intellectually dishonest was often one reason why I didn’t care to direct insulting him instead of playing his games.

Back to some fun.

Lucifer: "It’s “puff, puff, pass,” not “puff, puff, stomp, angrily.”:rofl:

lol thats ok, i prefer people to disagree and i can always appreciate stubborness even when people decide to ignore the “obvious” evidence :wink:

only watched a few episodes so far, but i like it! (probably because i liked his acting in Starman (1984) - IMDb and didnt see him since then lol)

Well, it’s obvious who’s the stubborn of us on this particular issue, but I can easily live with that. Especialky as it’s a beautiful sunny autumn sunday morning and I am going for a walk with my dog now.

lol yes it is… enjoy!

Just tried to watch the series of Tom Ellis wife Meaghan Oppenheimer, „Tell me Lies“. But I can‘t. It‘s a series about student relationships, some of them toxic. Tom Ellis joined the cast as a manipulative married professor who starts a sexual relationship with a student. That relationship isn‘t showing yet, that he is manipulative, at least not necessarily. But having seen an interview with Oppenheimer and Ellis, I knew that his character is a very cold and highly manipulative one - but not on first sight. Knowing this, I got stomach aching watching the first sex scene. Life is hard enough to deal with that shit and if it’s just on screen.

I rather stick to laughing material or dramas where characters evolve for the better. Lucifer had both, plus I loved their corrective approach on those highly flawed celestial characters.

A pity, his pre-Lucifer series „Rush“, which was about a drug addicted doctor, didn‘t survive the first season. Was very promising according to what I read and watched about it.

How is it you can watch every season of Lucifer and not Tell Me lies? Are there no :gift_heart: scenes?

Well, I could watch that „Tell Me Lies“ series, as they get streamed on the website „Dailymotion.com“ for free. I did skip to season 2, as Tom Ellis joined that series at that point. I stopped after episode 3, as I got really physically and emotionally sick when their relationship started to build up, because knowing what this girl‘s character named Bree has to go through due to the interviews I watched before. Without that knowledge, you easily can relate that he more or less is as innocent as the girl and a victim to the situation, as she approaches him, not the opposite way. I also feel I don‘t want to see Tom Ellis being in such a despicable role, cause I really like him. In one interview his wife Meaghan Oppenheimer, who created this whole new character Oliver, said, that Ellis was quite depressive and also felt kind of guilty at the end of this season, as his oldest daughter is in the same age as Bree’s character. Oppenheimer also said she often had to advise him while playing, to stop smiling and to appear more colder. Which made me liking the real actor even more than before, lol. It cost me energy to watch him in such a role. Even if he would not play this controlling and manipulating asshole of a man, I dislike to watch such content, though. As I said, I prefer humour or broken characters which overcome their problems. Or even stupid science fictions like Star Trek. But having to watch him leading this naive girl into such dark waters, is more I can or rather want to digest.

lol sorry I don’t mean to laugh but Lucifer had multiple relationships in one season. How is it you couldn’t complete episode 3 of Lies? I know, I probably should watch it if I want to know more.

I agree. There are not enough comedians or comedy shows out there. That’s why I have a difficult time watching tv. There’s just nothing positive out there and who can escape the depressing news every day and the reality of WWIII on the horizon.

An interesting question actually. I don‘t know why those sex scenes on Lucifer didn‘t touch me at all, but that Bree - Oliver relationship does instantly, already when they first briefly met. Really no clue. Have to think about it. Maybe it was so clear that this Lucifer character is just fictional, that it didn‘t effect me at all but even had fun watching it. I only can say I had zero fun watching him as Oliver. It felt more real and serious. Btw., I did finish that whole episode 3. They ending up in bed was at the end of it. But I guess that was it for me. But who knows. Maybe I will give in eventually out of curiosity if just she or hopefully also he gets damaged at the end of that abusive relationship. lol.

I couldn‘t find a short video from that show specifically showing that Bree - Oliver relationship, but here‘s an interview with both actors and a short flick.

It‘s interesting to hear how the actor approached his role to be able to play that character. Exactly this impression I had when watching the whole thing building up. And maybe that also contributes to my disgust. Cause he appears honest and even very sensitive in his intention and actions, even tells her that he won‘t leave his wife. Still, that doesn‘t appologize him in any sense for having sex with this very young, still very inexperienced girl. But there must be more wicked stuff than „just“ that (which is bad enough), given the hints both actors made in that interview.

And I loved he added, that at the end of shooting this actual season, he looked at his character again without his acting tools, and felt stomach sick. I wonder which advices he gives to his 4 daughters for their relationships.

I am on my lunch break and went back to humorous stuff. Trixie playing doctor with Lucifer and Maze, the meanest demon and personal bodyguard of Lucifer. She is so cute.

Oh well, time for me to say farewell to Lucifer. Thanks for giving me some time out from this cruel world. For letting me laugh, believe and dream. If I could just bake me a man, it would be him from season 6 on. Well, with that leaner body from season 3, if I may add. I am not into muscles. :wink:

The „real“ Charlotte Richards“, irritated what happened to her in the months she doesn‘t remember (that was when Lucis Mom used her body). Due to Lucis strange behaviour she falsely thinks they had a sexual relationship, lol.

Luci, telling the real Charlotte Richards, how that person who occupied her body, was like. She still doesn‘t know that it was his Mom. What he said about his Mom was very nice. And his looks. Oh well, I will miss him too. But maybe I am lucky and he becomes the next James Bond.

Sounds awful.

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Ok, I gave in and watched a few funny flicks of Lucifer again while sipping 3 morning coffees. This scene from 1:38 on, where he confronts this way older, fat female drug dealer and murderer, arrogantly giving her a free first try to attack him - only to get smashed heavily because he lost his celestial superpowers (he soon finds out why) and becomes a whimsical little boy asking for a time out. Assuming he has to die by the hands of this woman, he begs her to not tell anyone that he died like this, lol. That‘s so hilarious. :joy: :rofl: :rofl:

And then, after this nasty woman helplessly lies on the floor, nocked out by Chloe, he grabs the teaser and pushes the button again. This face of him. :see_no_evil: :laughing: