This could only be written by someone who hasn’t read their holy books. For those of us who have, it is obvious the Qu’ran and Hadith are far more violent and evil than the Bible. From my notes on Religion.
On War
Surah 9:73 O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed.
Surah 47:4 When you meet the unbelievers in jihad, chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended.
Surah 5:33-34 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror.
Surah 17:16-17 When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah’s word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly.
Surah 8:37 In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost.
Surah 21:11 How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples.
Surah 8:12 Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them.
Surah 9:121 Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.
Surah 8:36 Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme.
On Decency
Surah 8:51 If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them.
Surah 48:29 Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.
Surah 5:51 Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.
What you don‘t get is, that I know mine and yours are just plain stories, fantasies. Nothing more. Therefore the only one who believes in anything fake is you.
i dont think there are such things as holy books but yes i read the bible and the quran lol
i was talking about characters and nonsense and both the bible and the quran have their god and devil and their nonsense…
i believe every act of violence is 1 too many, but sure we can have a strange competition about which of those books has the most violent lines lol
“lol” indeed. Your ignorance of both which is constantly on display here makes me conclude you are either lying or just unable to understand and retain what you read, both being entirely possible.
There is no competition. The Qu’ran is far more violent, which you would know if you were smarter and had actually read it.
thats a possible explanation and one doesnt exclude the other one, but i suspect it has more to do with your precious ego being a bit butthurt about being caught lying in our other little discussion
that in combination with your age / fading memory capacity likely made you decide to try again by creating a silly issue where there was none (and despite that you still failed again)
indeed there wasnt and isnt in my mind since they are both nonsense
but since you decided to create this, the winner is obviously the bible with far more lines of violence until you can copy and paste or show a site that the quran has more than the 1143 lines of violence that i linked…
(take all the time you need, dont worry i wont hold my breath lol)
ah yes those are the notes you were referring to! i should have guessed since its always only about you in your precious little mind lmao
excellent, even you should be able to count (or let someone else count for you) and recognise that even your list of bible quotes is much longer than your list of quran quotes, which again makes it “obvious” which one is more violent…
How clever you are, Nico. Quote these 1143 lines. I doubt any of them mention cutting anyone’s hands or feet off. I won’t hold my breath, either.
And yes, my Bible list is much longer than my Qu’ran list, but as usual, you either didn’t read it or were incapable of understanding it. My Bible list included such things as rights for women and messy sex. Most of it had nothing to do with violence.
Nico, it’s sad to see you trying so desperately hard to play with the big boys. You can’t, though. I’m sorry, but you just aren’t smart enough or knowledgeable enough.
You mean…like Lucifer’s healing party? That’s not a belief. It’s an eternal experience.
You seem angry. Is thinki’s fair play irritating you?
Is it possible yo get through one conversation without insults. You seem violent and you can’t defeat evil with evil, can you? Unless you are hoping to insult each other to death.
I went to your page.
God sure seems to be hung up on excrement.
There are more than 30,000 passages in the Bible. Forty four are related to dung. You called Gods Word misogynistic an yet you seem to be hung up on passages about dung and women, which might lead a person, not me, friend, but people that don’t really know your goodness might think you’re the mysogynist.
Anyway, I reviewed your posts on the Quran and tried to find Scripture that similiar to that subject.
On War
Surah 9:73 O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed.
For judgment is merciless to the one who does not show mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. - Jacob (James) 2:13 TLV
Surah 47:4 When you meet the unbelievers in jihad, chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended.
Remember the prisoners as if you were fellow prisoners, and those who are mistreated as if you also were suffering bodily. - Hebrews 13:3 TLV
Surah 5:33-34 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror.
The ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These kings are of one mind, and they give their power and authority to the beast. They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them—because He is Lord of lords and King of kings,and those with Him are called and chosen and faithful.” - Revelation 17:12-14 TLV
Surah 17:16-17 When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah’s word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly.
Then He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money pouch must carry it as well as a travel bag. And whoever does not own a sword must sell his cloak and buy one. - Luke 22:36 TLV
Surah 8:37 In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost.
Let both grow together until the harvest. At harvest time, I will tell the reapers, “First, gather up the weeds and tie them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.’” - Matthew 13:30 TLV
Surah 21:11 How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples.
By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone that came out of their mouths. - Revelation 9:18 TLV
Surah 8:12 Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them.
the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know. And he will cut him in two and assign him a place with the unfaithful. - Luke 12:46 TLV
Surah 9:121 Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. - Matthew 5:9 TLV
Surah 8:36 Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme.
What do you want? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and a spirit of gentleness? -
1 Corinthians 4:21 TLV
On Decency
Surah 8:51 If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them.
“But if they confess their iniquity and that of their fathers, in the treachery they committed against Me, and how they walked contrary to Me —in return I walked contrary to them and brought them into the land of their enemies—and if at that time their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled, so that they accept the punishment for their iniquity, then I will remember My covenant with Jacob and also My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land. - Leviticus 26:40-42 TLV
Surah 48:29 Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.
They are foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. - Romans 1:31 TLV
This is the only place in the NT that uses the word “ruthless”.
excellent, oh you dont need to hold your breath for long, which is a very good thing considering your condition lol
they are clearly there for everyone willing to objectively read:
Some of David’s men kill Saul’s son (by smiting him under the fifth rib, of course) and bring his head to David, thinking that he’ll be pleased. But he wasn’t. David has the assassins killed, their hands and feet chopped off, and their bodies hung up (for decorations?) over the pool in Hebron. 4:6-7
Jesus tells us to cut off our hands and feet, and pluck out our eyes to avoid going to hell. 9:43-49
The oldest son had his tongue cut off, the skin of his head was removed, and his hands and feet were cut off while his brothers and mother watched. After that, while he was still alive, he was fried in the frying pan. While he was being tormented, his brothers and mother told him to die like a man, saying, “God and his servants will take pleasure in us.” 2 Maccabees 7?
here are 2 more popular ones that werent listed in those 1143 lines where its advised to cut off your own hands and feet which is clearly violence so they should add it and make it 1145 lines:
"And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell” (Matthew 5:29–30).
"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. (Matthew 18:8)
fair enough lol but then again some sane people might say they all have to do with violence since if you break them and defy their god what happens? you suffer for eternity in hell for it…
lol@big boys… iam not into fatshaming but yes everyone knows who is the “big boy”
everyone who can read can also see how this wasnt and isnt an issue for me since i repeatedly stated that i think both religions are violent and nonsense…
but iam always willing to help you out and share a few mins of my time, since you always make it so easy lol
sure there is lol i dont see any insults that i made? and iam a pacifist, i assure you there is no violent intention at all coming from me; i honestly wish nobody any harm
I hate to jump in for defending Christianity, but those statements obviously weren’t meant literally but as a graphic metaphor. Otherwise only homosexual men would be allowed to keep all of their extremeties. No hetero man (nor woman) is able to not have sexual fantasies once in a while at least, when meeting an attractive person of the opposite gender.
Nico, if you seriously think these obvious metaphors are equivalent to the Qu’ran (seriously) ordering the amputation of enemies, you’re stupider than I had thought, and it’s not like I respected your intelligence before.
And no, Nico, you will never be able to run with the big boys, as your post just showed. You really aren’t bright enough.
i assume it was your “intelligence” that only decided to comment on that one quote and not all the other ones because those couldnt be interpreted as a metaphor even by someone as “intelligent” as you? lol
One of my favourite scene from season 2. Beside the humour coming from the insights he gets from his therapy sessions and the irritations by the effect his new sexual interest has on him for the first time ever since his existence, I love him showing those emotions after he killed his brother Uriel, who got sent by his father for that Lucifer either hands out Mom against her will or Uriel will kill Chloe.
