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if i ignore the idea of how an almighty (son of a) god could possibly be killed, then still the whole concept of how murdering (yourself or anyone else) could possibly save anyone and then to have the guts to claim its done out of love and it brings peace?! i think that is an insult to human intelligence, insane and sickening to me and should not be taught to anyone, especially not children!

Was He killed or did He lay down His life? What did He testify to?

That has to be something you created in your own mind or…did you read that somewhere? I’ve never said that to anyone nor do I believe anyone would do that, especially to themselves. But I understand your bitterness if that’s what you think.

I agree. What should we teach children? That the Love of God is through the worship of Lucifer?

neither and nothing, since if we pretend almighty gods exist then they cannot die and because gods and sons of gods dont exist they dont testify to anything

yes and yes

we should teach our children that gods and demons are fairytales

Post what you read? I’d like to read it too. Beyond that, good talk, albeit not very realistic and unfortunately, goes nowhere since that doesn’t really leave room for any path forward. We tried though.

you have read it many times before:
john 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

The way you frame it makes His Sacrifice sound like a selfish lie. Did God murder His Son?

Isn’t it amazing how merciful God is toward us. We rebel and He pays the price to redeem us.

With the words of Lucifer: Bollocks. I now get why Luci lead the rebellion. I am going to support him if he ever knocks on my door for help. Gods concept sucks and failed horribly. Slowly I wish someone really created all this and still is there. Only in that case we would at least have a chance for a change for the better when he is killed off.

That devil really has the voice of an angel.

We don’t have that chance. This is an ugly universe, as you once observed. We can only survive by killing others. I believe that will change at some point, but I will not live to see it. And at that point, we will no longer be human, anyway.

The word „rain“ in that song had me think of tomorrow, where my idiotic self in a weak moment months ago agreed to help at tomorrows marathon event which ends just about 300 meters beside my door. Unfortunately they predict a flood tomorrow. If I am lucky, the rebellion starts earlier for that I have an excuse not to go and drown. Good night.

correct, if i pretend that almighty all-knowing gods exists then its not possible that a (son of a) god can make any sacrifices since they would know in advance and since they are almighty/immortal they cannot die, therefore if they existed they were deceiving humans

no, i think its a disgusting lie

lol nite nite and have fun tomorrow :wink:

Thanks, but I don‘t want to sleep, despite I am tired. Ganymedes is lying next to me and meowing disapprovingly about either the light of my tablet or the noises which come out of it. Through the window I can see the lightnings already. I don‘t hear if it’s already raining, though.

Something funny to chear up again.

That bickering between Luci and God is priceless. Also the mimics and gestures of Luci. I could cuddle him for that, lol. But when also the therapist throws her issue with God into the ring (her baby boy with his other son, Amendiel, got no wings),… that‘s why Lucifer is a bit irritated why she emphasizes so much that he can’t fly.

Spoiler* Her Baby received wings shortly after that appointment. :rofl:

Got up at 7 am. Its a disgusting rain drizzling cold weather outside. I hope the bright organizers who decided to use a flood plane (which always get flooded if the river Regen - pun intended - rises) as a huuuuge parking lot and for the festival tent, also organized enough tractors for pulling the cars out from that already now way too wet field due to the raining. Luckily I can walk those 300 meters.

A day to stay in bed or at least at home. Wouldn’t send my dog out there right now, me not either. But I have to. Cling to my coffee mug and will call Mom in a minute, as every weekend, before I give in.

Couldn’t resist, lol. Found this flick about Lucifer and his angry daughter Rory (justly and also not justly - that story is too complicated to tell in a short way). This was the first time he detected an interest both had in common. Music.

Oh - the first alarm was just going on. No clue because of the rain or some accident.

stay safe

Thanks, I was. No rowing needed and I got home tired but sound. It was rainy and cold. Now if they just would switch the music style, for that I could finally catch up some sleep instead of having to listen to that techno beats without hearing any melody at all.