ok you claim its not about race or religion but it also cannot be about respect lol;
all people and especially competitive football players have done disrespectful things; all break the rules like stall for time, fake an injury, kick or push someone and they all will do it again in order to win a game, to get an advantage in life or for whatever reason or no reason at all…
whatever it is about, surely you realise that humans are more than just a few of their actions and more than 1 particular thing they believe in? so why make 1 thing more important than a whole person? and why make it more important than all the other people that dont have that view but are in the same team? if you want to stick to that principle you need to lock yourself up in a very tiny room and never communicate with anyone ever again…
I have no idea what Gunda is mad about so I asked ChatGPT. This is what it said.
If your friend is referring to current players in the German national team, she might be talking about İlkay Gündoğan, as he is a prominent player with Turkish roots and Muslim faith who is still active in the national team. Another player she could be referring to is Karim Adeyemi, who has Nigerian and Romanian heritage and is also Muslim. These players might be the ones your friend has in mind when mentioning her concerns about the composition of the team.
Is this right, Gunda? You don’t like İlkay Gündoğan or Karim Adeyemi?
wouldnt surprise me if its just a nature friendly habit for people born in small villages lol but yes he is definitely dutch, he was a moderate player (his brother erwin was much better) but he did quite well with his limited skills in his football carreer and is now our current coach of the national team
He took a photograph with President Erdogan and another player, İlkay Gündoğan. I assume you don’t like Gündoğan either. May I ask what your problem with him or them is?
I couldn’t find your past post but Özil retired so I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want Germany winning the title. Maybe I’m just confused but it’s your country we are talking about here and your comment does sort of come off as racist, although i know you’re not racist at all.
“Islamism has been defined as: “the belief that Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life” (Sheri Berman); the belief that Islam should influence political systems (Cambridge English Dictionary)”
do you have a different definition than the above one? or do think those that follow islam are capable of worse things than those that believe in other religions or non-believers?
why not?
“He was born in Berlin to an Afro-German father, Matthias, and a Sierra Leonean mother, Lily. He grew up in the Berlin neighbourhood of Neukölln and is the half-brother of Sahr Senesie.”
Really, thinki. You seriously think this one sentencer of definition fully describes islamism? Look at the Saudis. Or the Talibans. Or what ISIS tried to create. Thats Islamism. And thats why islamism is not synonym with Islam. It goes way further. Everyone with a different interpretation of their ultra conservative religion (including fellow Muslims) has less rights and gets oppressed. Equal rights for all people is something they don’t subscribe and don’t want. Islamism isn’t compatible with democracy worth the name.
i see, so basically you want to take away rudigers rights and oppress him by removing him from your national football team in order to stop the taking away of rights and oppressing people… ?!?
No. Just like there’s a difference in using violence depending if someone is attacking or defending, there also is a difference if someone claims all rights for one group and hence to suppress all others in society, contrary to someone who claims all people have equal rights.
yes some believe that, i do not… its the silly freedom fighter vs terrorist debate and arguing who is the good and bad side while both sides try to kill eachother…
violence is violence; its the same action, the reason why does not change the action
indeed, but who is the one that believes in equal rights when you believe rudiger doesnt have the right to play in a football team?
Luckily, you are the only one I know with such an opinion.
And to your last question: I explained you why already. I believe that Rüdiger has an islamistic mindset and I don’t think such a person should represent my country.
you explained but that explanation is not valid to someone that believes that all people have equal rights
unless you dont consider rudiger “people” then it makes sense…
edit: i noticed you said “my country” so its also valid if you think rudiger wasnt born and raised in germany but faked his birthcertificate like obama? lol
