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How is it nonsense? You don’t think 10000 years ago incest was necessary to keep tribes alive?

Would you be able to know that murder is immoral without reading the ten commandments?

Because you seem to think it was not immoral until it was.

No.

I don’t think infidelity should be punishable at all. If a couple grew apart from each other (or one of them), they should easily be able to seperate. I only want that the separation isn’t onesidedlly disadvantaging the one who reduced or stopped working for taking care of the family.

I think the most fair way would be, that the state provides excellent full day care for kids, for that both parents can work full time. On tax payers cost. Well cared children also for sure excell better in such institutions, than being put in front of tv or playing computer games at home.

I have evolved on this. I think infidelity should be punished by law, as should any breach of contract. I never used to think that, but I do now. This would harm far more men than women.

And yes, it’s easy to divorce. Do that, don’t hide and breach contract.

What should the punishment for infidelity be?

isnt being married enough punishment?? guess if you want to really punish them make them marry another one

That’s true. Even now, I would not have an issue with it in the Amazon. Nor if the population suddenly went from 8 billion people to 1000. I’m sure there are many non-humans this happens with. I think it is bad for society, it’s bad for children, but at times it’s been necessary. I’m guessing neither one of us would be alive without it, in some form over the last 20000 years

I sometimes wonder what it would be like if humans could not comprehend how to kill each other. I’d be up for never being born if that was the case, but there’s a chance there would be fewer of us without cavemen eating each other. It’s no longer necessary to kill someone, but it probably was in the caveman days. Think “The Lost Boys” with more grunting. Nowadays, I think I’d rather starve to death than kill and eat someone on an island, but I might feel different about that 20000 years ago. I don’t find the caveman to be immoral. Just a different world. I would not judge the caveman for killing another that accidentally walked up to the wrong cave. I do judge us now for that. Life is more comfortable now with less fight or flight stress and a larger population to be with.

Of course morals change over time. Most of us, they change as we live. Do you have the same morals you had at age 5? I don’t. I was pro capital punishment up until about age 20. You probably are too. If that’s the case, you don’t even believe in the ten commandments.

So as a society continues, morals should change. I would not want to live in a society with morals from 20000 years ago.

Back on topic.

r’amen!

90 days in prison and a very unfavourable divorce settlement, regardless of what any prenup says. Except perhaps in the Netherlands and Germany. Perhaps infidelity should be legal there.

real infidels never commit infidelity because they dont get married in the first place (silly outdated cultish practice)

Lol@one can only commit infidelity if married. :laughing:

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Lawyers and private investigators would love it.

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Nice. He might run away with the primary. He’s getting more minority votes than the minority candidate.

It was only necessary in the beginning to procreate and populate the world for a short window of time. At no other time in history has it been “necessary”.

I’d love to hear your logic.

So when Cain slew Abel, you don’t think he should have been judged? Was it not necessary? He didn’t even repent because he wasn’t convicted in his heart for his sin. Instead, when his judgment was handed down he pleaded for protection from those who would see his mark, understand his iniquity and stone him to death, which God, in His great mercy, gave Cain.

Agreed, you are a real infidel, Nico. And life doesn’t start until you’re married.

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yes! and proudly so

no, thats when your life is basically over lol

Life starts with taking over responsibility for a child/children. Married or not. And most fail in taking proper responsibility. Many consider the partner not as an equal but as an employee, if not even less. Being married proves nothing. Even the Talibans, Trump and Putin are (or in case of Putin, was) married.

I didn’t say being married proves anything, Gunda. I just think life is way better when you’re not doing it alone.