Dear Fat People

I know. Those who use that approach have something shameful to hide.

You really don’t know me at all, Nico. I remember saying that once to some Russian bodybuilder (I assumed he’s Russian from his accent) honestly thinking ā€œthis guy might attack and, if he does, I will loseā€. I said it anyway. He yelled but did not attack.

Your (rather pathetic) attempts to paint me as a coward are falling as flat as your attempts to paint me as fat. At age 50, I sold my data center and emigrated to Colombia, generally regarded as one of the more dangerous countries in the world. While there, I visited every barrio they tell tourists never to visit, and I regularly walked el Hueco in MedellĆ­n where even locals fear to tread. I’ve sailed on the Pacific in a tiny sailboat and I’ve ridden a motorcycle across the southern USA with a white girl on the back. I am no coward, Nico.

Cue some pathetic, snide, derogatory response from the Dutch POS heckler who won’t even show his face. I know it’s coming. I know it will be stupid.

You’ve known me for a long time, Michele. I have not led a perfect life. I’ve done many bad things. I think you know I have nothing to hide.

lol
oh i totally agree i dont know you besides what i have seen on this forum, and yes that hasnt shown me much bravery but mainly an old egotistical man pounding his chest

it was an obvious joke, my silly dutch brother (i do think the best jokes always contain some truth)

except a lot of insecurity

What do you think it accomplishes?

It accomplishes the same thing as telling the delivery driver not to drop things in the mailroom, or telling the waitress that the meal was overcooked, or asking the guy yelling into his cell phone if he could please keep his voice down. In every interaction of every sort, you are providing feedback to the other person.

If you don’t tell the guy yelling into his cell phone that he’s disturbing you, he’ll have no incentive to change and will keep yelling into it. If you don’t convey to the smoker that his behaviour is making you sick (literally), he’ll have no incentive to change and will keep emitting repulsive poisons.

Feedback is not always negative, either. If I see a girl who has obviously taken the time to dress well and look good, even if she’s not very pretty I’ll still look her right in the eyes and smile admiringly. At 60, I’m not trying to get her in bed. I just want her to know that I noticed and that I think she looks good.

yes i think it would if you used similar wording towards a smoker :wink:

lol what if you also notice a bulge between the legs of that woman, would you still smile to compliment her?

Gross Dutch pervert.

lol thought so

Immediate accomplishments are simply, Reg. Going from fat to skinny doesn’t happen just because your fat mouth says, ā€œthat must changeā€.

You have no P. R. skills.

I’ll share with you a thing that happened years ago in Park Bench.

Someone sent me a message and I shared how lazy I am. They were so nice and told me to take baby steps. Go slow. They told me to skip through the house and then the mailbox and then down the road…the point is, I listened to them. People who point out all that is wrong will never get it right. I have no clue who gave me that advice but I will never forget it and I’m grateful for their approach.

But it will never happen if they hear the lie, ā€œyou are beautiful just the way you areā€.

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But it will never happen if they hear the lie, ā€œyou are beautiful just the way you are
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Is that what you think fat people want, need or expect? Are you really that out of touch? A fat person can lose weight and you could still find and endless amount of physical flaws. I seriously doubt you’re are following the correct line of thinking.

lol if you were really grateful you would remember their name
you are welcome anyways :wink:

What is it you think I do to fat people, Michele? Do you think I walk up to them and say, ā€œomg you are fatā€? I do not. I simply decline to give them any positive reinforcement about their life choices. Unless they ask me my opinion, I say nothing.

If they do ask me my opinion, I tell the truth, usually very politely. If they ask me if they look fat in that dress, I might say, ā€œThat isn’t the most flattering outfit for you.ā€ If they ask me if I think they should lose weight, I might say, ā€œyes, your health would surely benefit if you dropped some weight.ā€

The same is true for smokers. I hold my nose. I say nothing unless they say something to me, at which point I tell the the truth.

I decline to lie to either group, but if they don’t talk to me, I keep my mouth shut.

That’s not true. Bbad was built on your opinion. With every post you have an opinion. You don’t do anything to fat people that I know of but you do openly share your opinion on looks. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. I’m just saying you have no tact. You expect positive reinforcement in your own team people you work with but you can’t spare it for strangers.
That could stem from your ego growing with your wealth… idk.

That’s the way you answer your wife. Very polite, very, don’t want to be in the doghouse answer. That’s fine. But when you look at a fat person in a magazine or video, that’s not what you say. You don’t say that to your wife or family or friends.

You should cover your face.

You should tell the truth but maybe you should join a P. R. class for approach.

I’m home now and have a few more thoughts.

I am impressed that you appreciate my honesty in this case. Many do not. I agree that your variation is nicer but it is not more accurate. Their filthy smoking habit does not stink at all. Habits are intangible and cannot stink. Their cigarettes stink, and they personally stink. My calling them ā€œtotally disgustingā€ nicely encompasses the stench from their cigarettes and from their breath and from their clothes and from themselves. If I was going to improve it for accuracy, I might change it to, ā€œYou are totally repulsive and disgusting,ā€ to emphasize that normal people don’t want to be near them.

One of us is insecure. One of us always has a recent photo on his profile, and honestly discloses his weight and other details regularly. One of us hides in the shadows and heckles others. Yes, one of us is very insecure.

BBAD was built on many people expressing their opinions.

Thank you for that. I’m glad you recognize that.

This is totally wrong. If people aren’t willing to look me in the face and tell me, ā€œthat’s totally wrong, here’s why,ā€ then I generally won’t work with them. I hire very smart people these days (being in the research business) and I have no use for head patting. If it’s wrong, tell me it’s wrong and we’ll go find what’s right. None of the people that work for me have any issue telling me that something was wrong or stupid or misguided, nor do I have any issue saying why I think they’re wrong.

Again, totally wrong. Erika wants me to tell her when she looks good and when she doesn’t, and she doesn’t want me to waste a lot of words softening it. She takes that information as the constructive criticism it was intended as, and ensures she almost always looks good (although I admit I’m prejudiced). I actually offered her a blunt criticism the other day (I won’t say about what) and she thanked me at least 10 times for telling her. She knows I love her and she doesn’t need me to take 100 words to say something that can be said with 5.

Obviously not. We all behave differently in person than when we’re assessing online content. Am I supposed to tell each Youtube video I watch, ā€œI don’t mean to hurt your feelings, and I know you tried very hard, and there were many good points in your video, and I can see you put a lot of effort into this, but I really think there may have been better ways to present the material in question.ā€? I don’t.

You can’t seriously believe that I should cover my face so as not to offend the vile, stinking smokers who are emitting poisons in the air. Or perhaps you can believe that. I don’t know. I don’t believe that.

How would you rephrase the message ā€œYou are totally repulsive and disgustingā€ to be nicer in approach while still being totally truthful and communicating the same information?

True.

excellent approach!
you say it best, when you say nothing at all

oh yes i can be very insecure about a lot of things lol but i have no problem facing it and remain myself at all times instead of freaking out over insecurities, unlike one of us :wink:

no ā€œweā€ do not lol

false, i think he has a lot of tact and can act/pretend like the best actors in hollywood out there (which isnt very good but still)

There you go. Making accusations. I appreciate your honestly. I just don’t appreciate your tact.

Yes, dahling, yours will be the mathematically correct variation.

Normal people find your approach unempathetic to them. Perhaps you could change your claim from empathy to stench or totally disgusting.