Vaccines

what statistically risk did that 41 year mother have of dying of covid?

I was wrong, maybe you are that stupid.

Did you see what Chile did, Nico? :smiley:

you didnt answer the question

Ok, the chances of that 41 year old mother dying of Covid were negligible.

doesnt that make “the risk of the vaccine greater than the risk of covid” for her and all healthy young people?

No, Nico, it doesn’t. You really don’t understand this. I had thought you were being obtuse. Clearly not. Ok, I will try to explain.

Risk has nothing at all to do with a known outcome. Once the outcome is known, there is no longer any relevance to the concept of risk. What were the chances of my making it back to Canada safely? Whatever that number, it is no longer relevant nor does it have any meaning now that I am safely back in Canada.

The risk of that 41 year old dying of Covid is minuscule. I don’t know the exact number but I would guess it is going to be on the order of 1 in a hundred thousand or so.

The risk of that 41 year old dying of a vaccine is unknown. Most people expect it to be much lower than her risk of dying of Covid but nobody knows at this point.

These risks are meaningless when someone actually dies (or doesn’t die). Risks are always assessments of chance prior to an outcome occurring.

Neither did I say that nor did or do I think such a nonsense. You are sick.

her family and friends know because she is dead

You really are that stupid. Ok, I’m going to bed.

pleasant dreams
oh if you dont wake up in the morning, dont worry the risk is quite low even if you are dead

somehow it doesnt matter if you add an extra factor like some knives in your bed or a vaccine that may up the percentage of chance of dying…

Do you only criticize the current available Covid 19 vaccines or vaccines in general? I get the fear from negative vaccination effects, which even can be lethal. Therefore I understand if people question if every vaccination recommended really is necessary and especially the questioning of the recommended booster intervals. But generally speaking, as tragic every single dead or sickness because of vaccination is, there would be significant more tragical victims without vaccination.

i question everything but yes i especially criticize things that are experimental and dont seem to benefit healthy people

sure in general but in this case i think these vaccines have been hurried and not properly tested and they are not being open or honest about it
i havent seen any mention of anything negative about those vaccines in dutch news at all let alone several dying

test it properly with people that know the risks and are willing to take that chance in the hope of saving those that are old and not healthy
find out whether people that have been vaccinated are really less infectious than those that are not

You really are an idiot. Thank God, you went to bed. Here’s to hoping two burly men break your door down and inoculate your wife against your will. :coffee:

I can agree to that. Same here in Germany. I am pro the Covid 19 vaccination, but the „information“ policy is a desaster due to the lack of it. Be it about Covid 19 itself or the vaccination. No criticism at all. You only find them on social media platforms but not on the public broadcasters. Which is totally contraproductive as this fuels mistrust.

Why do you support the distribution of a vaccine if you don’t know what they are putting in it?

We know enough about the virus to know we don’t need a vaccination against it.
We know it was used to destroy the American economy to influence the election.
We know that after Biden is president the number of cases will go down because the Biden administration, the Democratic Party and liberals in general worked hard and made sacrifices for the American people, triggering a need to recognize Biden for the Nobel Peace Prize for his Excellence in Medicine within the first 8 months of his “perfect” administration, as is all Democratic administrations. History will record the Biden Administration as the greatest the world has every seen as China dismantles the Constitution and forbids worship of God in all public places. Satanic worship will be the only acceptable form of worship. Masks will be the only acceptable form of protection against the virus as any public display affection will be forbidden and touching will be outlawed. Travel restrictions will be strictly enforced as the virus rages out of control and China scrambles to jab the world with the new and improved Gates Tattoo and Tracking Vaccine.

Not just mistrust but no trust at all.

i assumed you would recognise the usual religious reasons: fear, hope and blind faith

Because of the test results which show, that there was no deadly case and no severe disease course in the vaccine test group but in the placebo test group. Yes, it‘s a very short test period yet and I am glad I don‘t belong to any of the risk groups and thus have the luxury to let others be the guinea pigs. But I rather face the risk which comes with the vaccine then the in my opinion way higher risk of getting a severe Covid 19 disease or even a terrible painful death and infect my family, friends and society.

The trials so far show not just the existence of the Covid 19 virus but also the efficiencies of the vaccines. The nuts citing religious reasons can‘t even show up yet with a trial to prove the existence of a deity, not to speak of a life after death.

guess it depends how you interpret what is told and what is efficient, fact is that they made public that 6 people died during pfizer trials, 4 that were supposedly were given a placebo, the 2 others could be other causes than the vaccine

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pfizer-health-concerns-idUSKBN28K2R6

to me it makes sense to blame the vaccine as the cause of death if you die within 2 days of getting a shot, others may say its probably other causes just like in these instances:

they have what they have been told by those that profited, just like those in favour of vaccines have what they have been told by those that are profiting

True, those that profited told this. It was also what an independent 3 phase clinical trial of 8000 people showed, which was reviewed by government health agencies around the world.