I liked the Burger King crowns protest.
great speech by mehdi hasan
if its too long for your attention span, dont miss out on this part:
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In fairness, those immigrants went through the door. They didn’t climb a fence or dig a tunnel to get here. They didn’t cross illegally and they didn’t expect any handouts.
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lol, that was hilarious.
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Set assclown into a tizzy of meme posting.
Maybe 4F should hold a MAGA rally. Thé George Soros crowd and Greens and Democrats and ppl who care about the Constitution can counter demonstrate.
Second video is funny. But both his wives came here legally unlike millions of illegals.
Totally correct. Fairness coming from you is an oxymoron.
and yet almost all of those illegals pay taxes that usually dont benefit themselves but all “real” americans do benefit from that…
according to my ai buddy:
Yes — undocumented immigrants in the U.S. do pay taxes, even though they may not have legal immigration status. Here’s a breakdown of how and why:
How they pay
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Even without a valid Social Security number (SSN), undocumented immigrants can obtain an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and file tax returns or have taxes withheld. immigrationpolicy.org+3Bipartisan Policy Center+3Tax Policy Center+3
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They also pay sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes (either directly if they own a home or indirectly via rent), and state/local taxes just like any other resident. ITEP+1
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Many undocumented workers have payroll taxes withheld by employers even if they are not authorized to work legally. immigrationpolicy.org+1
But there are limitations/inequities
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Although they pay into systems like Social Security or Medicare via payroll tax withholding, undocumented immigrants are generally ineligible for benefits from those systems (because eligibility usually requires lawful presence and/or a valid SSN). Tax Policy Center+1
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They may also be excluded from certain tax credits or refunds available only to filers with valid SSNs (for example the federal Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) in many cases). Tax Policy Center+1
Magnitude of tax contributions
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According to the American Immigration Council, households led by undocumented immigrants paid about US $89.8 billion in federal, state & local taxes in 2023 (approximately US $55.8 billion federal + US $33.9 billion state/local). inclusion.americanimmigrationcouncil.org+1
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The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) estimates that undocumented immigrants paid almost US $97 billion in taxes in 2022 (federal + state/local). ITEP+1
Why this happens
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U.S. tax law says that individuals who earn income in the U.S. must pay taxes on that income — regardless of immigration status. Tax Policy Center+1
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Using an ITIN allows tax filing for people without an SSN, thereby enabling tax contributions and legal filing even without authorization to work. Bipartisan Policy Center+1
Summary
So in short:
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Yes — undocumented immigrants do pay substantial taxes (income, payroll, sales, property/state/local) in the U.S.
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No — they generally cannot access many of the benefits, credits, or retirement benefits that the taxes help fund until (and unless) they obtain legal status.
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Their tax contribution is non‑trivial and recognized in various research/analysis.
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here’s a side-by-side example comparing how taxes work for:
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Maria, a U.S. citizen -
José, an undocumented immigrant
Both are single, live in California, earn $35,000/year working full-time in similar jobs, and are not claimed as dependents.
Income Breakdown (2024 Tax Year)
| Category | Maria (U.S. Citizen) | José (Undocumented, uses ITIN) |
|---|---|---|
| Gross income | $35,000 | $35,000 |
| Payroll taxes (SS + Medicare) | $2,678 (7.65%) | $2,678 (7.65%) |
| Federal income tax | ~$1,775 | ~$2,525 |
| State income tax (CA) | ~$300 | ~$300 |
| Sales tax (est.) | ~$1,400 (based on consumption) | ~$1,400 |
| Total taxes paid | ~$6,153 | ~$6,903 |
Why José Pays More in Federal Tax
| Reason | Explanation |
|---|---|
 No Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) |
Maria qualifies for ~$750 back as EITC. José can’t claim it without a valid SSN. |
| No Child Tax Credit (if he had kids) |
José wouldn’t be eligible unless his child has a valid SSN. |
| No access to government benefits later |
Despite paying payroll taxes, José can’t claim Social Security or Medicare later in life. |
Effective Tax Rates (approximate)
| Type of Tax | Maria | José |
|---|---|---|
| Federal income tax (after credits) | ~5.1% | ~7.2% |
| Payroll tax (FICA) | 7.65% | 7.65% |
| State/local (incl. sales/property) | ~4.9% | ~4.9% |
| Total effective tax rate | ~17.6% | ~19.7% |
Even though they earn the same income, José ends up paying about $750–$1,000 more annually in taxes — without receiving key benefits.
Which indicates he thinks their protest was a paid for Soros joke. I hope he shows his assclown in more meme posts.
Must you abbreviate everything? What is 4F?
Greens? Is that a new party? I’m almost certain Democrats are not going to counter anything Trump does.
Trump avoided Thé Vietnam War to hang at the country club he was 4F for the draft due to bone spurs but he of course knows his way around a golf course.
Green Party has been in America for years Jill Stein was the leader last time I checked. In Canada I think the Greens have 2 seats in the HOC.
The failure in chief just abandoned Putin talks after having promised to end the Ukraine conflict in one day.
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He is demolishing the East Wing a historic building for his ballroom fantasy. How is his drastically lower grocery prices thing going. Has that wall ever been built? 170 Americans have been arrested by ICE and in a total violation of international law 7 boats have been demolished in the Caribean by US Forces. They were given no opportunity to surrender.
If he’s in violation of international law, why doesn’t the very slow to respond, intellectually challenged international criminal court indict him?
because they are indeed very slow
i have no doubt in the future there will be a warrant for trump as well (if he lives that long) just like there is for other criminal dictators like putin and netanyahu (with similar unsatisfying result)
Trump has been shielded from international prosecution.
Be nice if they did. You fit every stereotype of a Trump voter and Walmart worker. The ICC does not apply to America it never has.
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I’m flattered.
You would be.
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because of an add lmao
what a pathetic little moron
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