That’s a novel thought. Then why would anyone ever give a Bible to a non-believer hoping he’ll read it?
You answered your own question. We hope they will read it.
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Then stop saying the Bible is for believers.
Mick Jagger reads the Bible for song inspiration . Saint Of Me, Thief In The Night and others. I have met ppl online who read it for intellectual debate.
Amos 4:13.
But it is for believers. The only reason an unbeliever picks up a Bible or quotes a Scripture is purely to mock the Word of God as nothing.
Obviously, they were believers since unbelievers can only reply with “prove it”.
those are not unbelievers, they are realists
That might be the definition of sanity.
Okay, prove faith.
I don’t know what “prove faith” means.
Neither do I but that’s the kind of demands unbelievers make.
No, Michele, we ask you to prove your claims, never your faith. Most of us think faith is foolish.
But…that s my claim that I live by faith in Christ, the Son of God, who died for the redemption of my sins and was raised from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit by the will of God, the Father.
You then demanded I prove Jesus’ existence. I stated, 4 witnesses, which you rejected. Beyond that, I have no physical proof, other than the love and mercy I feel in His presence.
No, Michele. You claim there’s a God in heaven and that Jesus was his son who came to Earth. You have provided no evidence and no witnesses. You have provided one book of apparent fiction to support your claims.
I was never charged with providing proof, nor do I care if you don’t believe what I post. It is not my hope that you believe me but believe Him. Below are historians who gave testimony of Christ.
Several ancient non-Christian historians and writers documented Jesus within the first and second centuries, confirming his existence, role as a teacher, crucifixion under Pontius Pilate, and the growth of early Christianity
. Key authors include Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny the Younger, Suetonius, and Mara bar Serapion.
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Key Non-Christian Historical Sources
- Flavius Josephus
(c. 37 – c. 100 AD):
A Jewish historian who mentioned Jesus twice in Antiquities of the Jews(c. 93-94 AD), referencing him as a wise man and a teacher, and identifying James as the brother of “Jesus, who was called Christ”.
- **Cornelius Tacitus (c. 56 – c. 120 AD):**A Roman historian who wrote in his Annals (c. 116 AD) that Emperor Nero blamed the “Christians” for a fire, noting that the name originated from “Christus,” who was executed by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius.
- Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 113 AD): A Roman governor who, in letters to Emperor Trajan (c. 112 AD), described early Christians worshipping Jesus as a god.
- Suetonius (c. 69 – c. 122 AD): A Roman historian who mentioned in Lives of the Twelve Caesars that Emperor Claudius expelled Jews from Rome due to disturbances instigated by “Chrestus”.
- Mara bar Serapion (c. 73 AD): A Stoic philosopher who wrote a letter comparing the death of Jesus (the “wise king” of the Jews) to the deaths of Socrates and Pythagoras.
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Other Mentions
- Lucian of Samosata (second century): A Greek satirist who mocked Christians for worshipping a crucified sage.
- Celsus (late second century): A philosopher who wrote a rigorous attack on Christianity, The True Doctrine, providing details that confirm a historical figure.
- **Thallus & Phlegon (second century):**Writers cited by later authors (such as Origen) who attempted to explain the darkness during the crucifixion as an eclipse.
- The Talmud: Jewish texts that, while critical, contain references to Yeshu (Jesus) being executed on the eve of Passover.
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These sources are crucial as they are independent of one another and provide external, often hostile, confirmation of the key events in the life of Jesus.
Unfortunately, I believe you are like those who crucified Yeshua so I’ll tell you like He told them. If I tell you, you will never believe me and if I ask you, you will never answer me.
i think when some people writing something about what possibly happened a 100 years earlier is your best evidence… then its probably a sign that you need to really think about things and find something more believable…
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This exactly right. All those writings were from a hundred years after the alleged events.
I’m done with thinking about things that you will never believe. It’s time I focus on things I will never believe, which is, you are too perfect for forgiveness. You have never done anything wrong. You’ve never done anything worthy of death and Christianity is not for you. I, on the other hand, have and need forgiveness.
good for you, but i dont believe you really thought or think about many things at all; your blind faith is likely what prevents you from doing so…
lol iam indeed far from perfect, (just like every other human being)
i think this is genetic / by design
we can only do what we believe is right and thats probably all we can ask from eachtother, but still its never too late for change;
you too can become humane again, stop seeking forgiveness from imaginary creatures and instead you can start thinking for yourself, see reality, take action and do what you believe is right!
That is true but I was referring to being so perfect that you have no need to repent from the things you have done wrong.
No, I can’t. I’m flawed that deep.