Because they look to me to be evil in their bombing of hospitals after they have killed 53,000 Gaza ppl. Israel has won. I am in Downtown Vancouver hardly any pro Palestine tags and more pro Israel ones.
I am in downtown Vancouver every day. Almost everyone I talk to is against Israel. Israel has lost this generation. Yes, the Israelis manage a pro-Israel rally every weekend, but all through the week and all over the city, you see pro-Palestine stuff going on. Throughout the western world, all but the most extreme are now against Israel. And the Eastern world has always been against it (aside from Hindu Indians, who hate Muslims more than the Jews do). The future looks bright.
They havent won a single bit yet. Only if Palestinians elect a leadership which accept Israels existance, hence, Hamas being meaningless and without power, then Israel but also the Palestinians have won and only then time is ripe for the Israelis to leave Gaza. The financiers of Israel then have to pressure Israel to give up the land occupied by their settlers and peace and a two-state-solution gets a chance. Only if Israel refuses to give up Gaza and the West Bank after a post-Hamas era, then I will oppose them. But till then, they have my back. I think anyone who criticizes them, has no clue what it is like, if you are surrounded by hostile and way bigger more or less deadly hostile countries as well as terrorists with no morals who want all of you dead, and I mean all of your kind (from the river to the sea).
As long as Hamas leaders hide in hospitals, as long I don’t judge Israel for attacking those hospitals. I only pity the Palestinians who oppose Hamas and die while being there. But blame the right ones and not Israel.
Further gone than I had thought. Du bist zu dem Monster geworden, das du verachtest.
Ditto.
Poorly aimed. I don’t want to bomb anyone, hospitals or otherwise.
Then again, I do support what El Salvador did in rounding up and imprisoning most of its gang members without trials, so perhaps I have become the monster I despise. You might be right.
You dodged this question back then, so I post it again. How should Israel react if Hamas with the help of Hisbollah and Iran (and many other antisemites) abuse the money and help they get by sending rockets and drones and send their murderers over the border to mainly aim at civilians and rape and kill even babies with their own hands.
Cause this is what you - deliberately or not - support with your demand that Israel shall retreat and let Hamas keep in power.
I support Israel as does Vancouver Mayor Sim and John Rustad and the BC Conservatives and the federal Conservatives.
There is zero evidence of this. Just a bunch of hysterical Zionists claiming it without proof.
They should react by giving everyone in that region citizenship, and not claiming that they are God’s chosen people and that land is for the Jews. That land is for humans. All land is for humans. As long as you tell people that they aren’t fully human, aren’t equal, have fewer rights, and have no claim to the land, then those people will fight back.
Nonsense. I support everyone there:
- Being full citizens of that nation
- Having the same rights as everyone else
- Having their religion (or lack of religion) being at the same status as all others
- Having equal claim to the land
Gunda, I have grown to like you again recently, but you are still very simpleminded in your thinking. After 80 years of trying to murder the Palestinians into submission, you appear to think it’s a good idea to do that some more, perhaps because the last 80 years have gone so well. Not only will this fail, it will likely lead Israel into total destruction in my opinion. The EU is falling out of line against Israel. The US is the only nation left, and they are failing. Even in the US, most people under 30 are totally against Israel. Your way leads to another holocaust. My way gives them some chance at a future.
36 children were murdered in cold blood. Not to speak of teenagers and adults.
https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/
Excerpts:
„Following visit to Israel and the occupied West Bank, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, Ms. Pramila Patten, finds sexual violence occurred on 7 October, and against hostages and calls for a fully-fledged investigation.“
And:
„Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed.
In the context of the coordinated attack by Hamas and other armed groups against civilian and military targets throughout the Gaza periphery, the mission team found that there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred in multiple locations during the 7 October attacks, including rape and gang-rape in at least three locations, namely: the Nova music festival site and its surroundings, Road 232, and Kibbutz Re’im. In most of these incidents, victims first subjected to rape were then killed, and at least two incidents relate to the rape of women’s corpses.
The mission team also found a pattern of victims, mostly women, found fully or partially naked, bound, and shot across multiple locations. Although circumstantial, such a pattern may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.“
To the rest of your post:
The Arabs in Israel have the right to and already obtain the Israeli citizenship.
Simpleminded is to expect Israel to commit suicide by embracing Palestinians into their entity who support and elect militant groups who even openly and officially commit to destroy Israel. And who breed like rabbits, regardless how terrible the living conditions for their children are. They don‘t care about their children. They only care about their non-existing deity.
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So you admit there is no evidence that they raped babies and that your claim was nonsense. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Yes, let Israel keep doing what they’ve been doing for 80 years (murdering, stealing). It will go about as well as it has for the last 80 years.
IDF is guilty of sexual abuse as so is Hamas. They share a mutual dysfunction.
The ideal and good state of these two nations as one shouldn’t tolerate it.
Im fairness it’s best to target the dysfunction.
I know you weren’t talking to me but you are the dysfunction talking.
This is totally true. Gunda will freak out about the sexual violence done by Hamas (which I agree is awful). She will say not one word about the horrific and far more widespread sexual violence done by the IDF against Palestinians, including raping a man to death on video. Actually, now that I have pointed it out, she will probably say something stupid now, like “I am against sexual violence on both sides,” but she’s lying. She only posts about one side, like a good Zionist jihadi.
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I should have put a full stop behind raped to make it clear enough for you. They “only” killed babies.
I guess you refer to the Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, of which most ancestors stem from Israel. If they really stole the land, then so fulfill the Palestinian Arabs this criteria even more..
"Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: “Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis”
Ruhig, Brauner. Don’t be so hysterical and primitive. We talked already about that particular rape, but you obviously forgot about it already.
Gunda, you need to talk about impotent rape and if it even exists.
You’ll cover for impotence at any cost, which means you’ll cover for rape and blame others.
I know this stupid game. Above all you side with the impotent.
No to Palestine. Let Israel decide who there citizens will be.
Yes very bad and evil thing to do.
I agree with Douglas Murphy on all points (admittedly I have only listened to half of it as I need to go to the lunch). But anyone who uses terms like concentration camp or genocide on behalf of Israel, is following a different, hidden, agenda. To me thats either proof they have no clue what those terms mean or do it intentionally because (my word, not Murrays), their main motive is driven by antisemitism.
So many billions of money poured to the Palestinians all over the years alone by those naive Western countries. And what did Hamas with all that aid and money? Building tunnels and Hamas hiding centers below civil infrastructure like hospitals to cause as many civilian deaths as possible, and buying rockets and other weapons. I recently watched an AfD speech by Dr. Gauland in the German Parliament about the huge amount of German money (additionally to what we contribute to the EU aid) given to Palestinians. Mind boggling. Will post that tomorrow, as I dont have the time today anymore. Thankfully due to our crisis and the government change, we hopefully will reduce it significantly and use it for a better and sustainable cause at home or in Ukraine, if we already are that dumb to give it abroad, despite at home everything falls apart.
