you are very welcome, sometimes its what it takes to try and reach someone
Right article, wrong interpretation, Nico. Here, taken from your own source right in the beginning, which meaning in English is, that both parties, the newspaper as well as Björn Höcke, are agreeing on that he didnât show the Nazi/Hitler salute, which the newspaper originally published.
âDass Björn Höcke am 18. Mai 2016 keinen HitlergruĂ gezeigt hat, darĂŒber waren sich die Parteien vor dem Landgericht Erfurt am 15. Juni 2016 einigâ
So yes, the picture is real (which I never questioned btw.), but what the picture shows is no Nazi/Hitler salute/greeting.
This means, you are lying, Nico.
no gunda, i think it means you are lying to yourself
i understand that you dont want your fascist to lose your hero status or having to regret your vote, but there really isnt a wrong interpretation; my interpretation was that the picture is real and that your fascist filed a complaint about the hitlergreeting titleâŠboth facts
yes ofcourse a newspaper would never claim someone did a hitler salute (just because someone did the exact same move with their arm and hand) since you cannot prove their intention even if you consider his previous words and actions as a proven fascistâŠ
to get back to why i think you are lying to yourself: i think you did question and try to discredit and even ridicule the picture or did you forget stating that you could make a picture like that of me waving to my allegedly pro homosexual arab and turkish friends? lol
but enough of that, did i mention your hero is a proven fascist yet? i think i might have a couple times⊠but lets look again at your proven fascist, your hero casually waving at the crowd⊠lol what a nice friendly man!
You can distract as much as you want from the issue but you referred to it as the âNazi salute pictureâ:
Fact is, you are lying. This picture doesnât show that greeting. Thatâs why also the newspaper deleted the original false title. And yes, I could make a picture like that of you as well.
Now to the reasons why it is legally ok to call him a fascist. No, not because he said he wants to abolish democracy or human rights or implement an ultranationalist ideology. Only because he used slogans like âAlles fĂŒr Deutschlandâ, which was also used by the SA (well, till the SS killed them, lol). And the other reason is, because Höcke claims, that with the mass immigration the German culture and identity will die. This is already enough for our Justice system to label someone as a fascist and btw. also as a Nazi.
Go on. You can call me that as well. For Godâs sake, why not also a racist. I so donât mind. And this is why I think of Björn Höcke as a hero. He speaks out and stands up peacefully for what he thinks. And nothing qualifies in my eyes any of those labels. I am more the coward one, as I never would dare to candidate, I rather elect them. To be fair, for the first nearly 30 years I voted for the SPD only, I also neither was their party member nor did I ever wanted to become a politician in their ranks. But feel free to add coward to your list as well. I call you an idiot. So itâs just fair. 
yes i think its a clear nazi salute picture
lol how am i lying? i think its a nazi salute picture and the picture shows that
no, the newspaper deleted the original title because otherwise they would be sued because they cannot prove his fascist intention, there is no doubt in my mind that they also think its a nazi salute
lol no, you could not
make a couple of his comments and get your picture taken while giving a nazi salute, attend some neonazi meetings and i will indeed call you a fascist and a nazi as well
i wouldnt call you a coward since i think its quite brave to support and call a fascist a hero⊠not very smart and uncaring and hateful but still brave that you dare to show yourself supporting such garbage
You may think what you want. That doesnât make it true.
yes ofcourse, it also doesnt make it untrue
how many times in your life did you make a similar greeting?
If that would be true, then the newspaper wouldnât have changed the title.
yes they would
Well, I made a few similar comments, like for example to deport all asylum seekers/immigrants without a legal title to stay who committed a crime already. So come on, Nico. I do you the favour and go beyond any of Höckes comment regarding immigrants. We have a massive Clan crime problem in Germany, mainly by Muslims. Due to the special conditions and dynamic within those thousands of people huge family clan members, I demand to deport the whole family if itâs proven one of them committed minimum 2 criminal offences.
not quite the same, how many times in your life have you made a greeting that someone could describe as a nazi salute? how many neonazi marches did you attend? if not, when will you start doing so?
here it shows its mainly germans, do you have other info to prove its mainly muslims?
To me he is neither a fascist or racist. Not from the informations I know about what he said yet. Maybe I will change my mind eventually, if he really says something which justifies to place him into the Nazi corner. But certainly not for pointing out that immigration isnât a solution for Germanys low fertility rate. To show the negative impact of it and to mention the fact, that Africa should deal with their too high fertility rate by themselves, doesnât qualify to call someone a racist or fascist or Nazi.
Truth is also, I still would vote for the AfD, even if they are everything you accuse them of. I might agree then with you about what they are, but as long as they are the only party which wants to reduce illegal and legal immigration especially for people which culture is diametral to ours and have a problem to integrate, as long I think the AfD is a necessary political tool. Just like the right-wing party in Denmark was necessary for making a shift to the right even for Denmarks left parties.
sure⊠and how about attending neonazi marches and making nazi salutes? does that qualify?
In that case the AfD would be banned and Höcke lands behind bars.
apparently not since both were done
Exactly the opposite. All opponents of Björn Höcke and the AfD, which means all other parties and the whole media, are waiting exactly for this to happen.
no need to wait, it already happened
Checked that article. It speaks of German âcitizensâ. Most immigrants have a german pass and thus are German citizens. I havenât heard yet of any German without immigrant roots who belonged to any of such criminal Clans.
