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I do not see the connection between the two statements. Do you support Nico’s assertion that calling children “nigger” should not be punished by the state, Gunda? You correctly note that I think he’s a lunatic for having that opinion. I don’t recall calling him self-righteous but I might have. That is less accurate. Lunatic is better.

I don’t recall Will calling you a Nazi. I recall Bill calling you that and I mentioned it once.

That said, I do not care if you are called things unfairly at all. It is not my purpose in life to protect you or anyone else from unfair harsh words. It’s not as though you haven’t unfairly used harsh words towards others many times here. It’s also not as though you’ve leapt to anyone else’s defense when unfair harsh words were used against them, so why should you expect me to leap to yours?

No one expects you to leap to another persons defense. Especially if it requires you lift your big ass off that couch.

i don’t know if the musicians care more about their hair than the music
i guess it’s prolly 59-41 but i’ll be dead soon

Why do you say that? Are you sick?

no but i am human
i hope you die first

Me too.

The Minnesota Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins and the Brooklyn Nets point guard Kyrie Irving disheartened fans and disappointed their teams by remaining unvaccinated against COVID-19, but at least both athletes kept it real. Neither attempted to deceive the public about his status. Aaron Rodgers, however, made a conscious decision not to tell the truth.

the source which must not be named

Let’s see. I am no nationalist, I don‘t view women as subordinant to men (and also not superior, just to be clear even for the idiots here), I neither view Germans/white people superior, I don‘t consider Arayans nor Jews as a race, I don‘t support less rights for anyone based on one’s gender, race, sexual orientation or religious belief/disbelief, I don‘t support any Nazi agenda which I know of (despite I approve of Hitlers improvement of the animal protection law back then). I also don‘t approve the military attacks on other countries as done by Hitler, that doesn‘t mean I view the Germans as the only ones having guilt for WWII (and WWI) or that I oppose wars per se. Regarding actual politics, I am all for an immigration law similar to Canada or Australia. I am pro granting asylum for refugees of war and oppression, if they have to fear for their life in their home country due to their gender, race, sexual orientation or religious belief/disbelief and as long as they agree to those exact values, including democracy. That‘s why I oppose the current policy of my country. So no, only an idiot would call me a Nazi.

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Will used the nigger word just the way I used the word Nazi in my recent post: Not as an insult but in a factual discussion. Of course then no one makes a drama about it.

Not entirely true. But that wasn‘t my point. I just addressed your post where you suddenly expressed remorse for how you verbally treated Will. I don‘t see any reason for wasting even a second about it, as he wasn‘t kind to you either. That‘s why I posted what I did as an answer.

Not by much.

He didn’t lie either.

I agree with this. Subordinate is not the same as submissive.

I disagree here. If a man denies Authority over him, no Authority rests his believing wife the authority in the home because she has Authority over her. It also makes him as one who is losing or has lost his mind and unable to make moral decisions on her behalf and in her best interest.

I can’t argue that.

They will throw you out of the synagogues. Yes, an hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.

  • John 16:2 TLV

It’s a good thing you don’t support US immigration laws since there are none.

I support your right to create your own drama about it.

My mistake. I attached myself to his soul.

bob dylan- va7isis
The wind it was howlin’ and the snow was outrageous
We chopped through the night and we chopped through the dawn
When he died I was hopin’ that it wasn’t contagious
But I made up my mind that I had to go on

Bob Dylan was a better writer than he was a singer. I dislike most of his music but his songs always tell a nice story.

Bob Dylan is a talentless old fool of no merit.

I think the Jimi Hendrix Experience"s “All Along the Watchtower” is the best cover song of all time. I’ve never heard a cover sound as different as their’s and Dylan’s original.

Michael Jackson’s “Come Together” definitely sounded different, but in a horrible way.

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I’ve listened to several versions of this song but not Michael Jackson’s. I see what you mean. Horrible. You wanna hear a sick version? Probably the best version ever in my opinion.

https://youtu.be/kPi-MOxR0l4

Too bad you have me on ignore lol.
Will would have liked this version. I think he would have approved.

Bob Dylan is a pedophile who groomed and then repeatedly abused a 12 year old child.

This was back in august but I didn’t even read anything in Telegram about him so when I Googled his songs these articles popped up. I feel like they have tried to suppress this in the news. I will share cause I’m generous that way. :grimacing:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mic.com/p/open-mic-what-to-make-of-the-child-sexual-abuse-allegations-against-bob-dylan-82874447/amp

Here are a few significant points they made:

almost all famous dudes of a certain level of power were all bad men from bad eras.

They should have pointed out that there is a global pandemic of pedophiles and perverts.

Dylan’s legacy will be barely be affected, if at all, despite how truly devastating his alleged behavior was and is.

He may not sense what’s happening at first but before it’s over he will be affected.

you think about people like David Bowie, Steven Tyler — they’re still largely revered despite the fact that there have been numerous public stories about extremely questionable behavior.

I didn’t read the articles about these men but I bet they are worthy of their own media exposure.

a lot of it just comes down to age and time, but in a weird way that results in this paradox: someone like Bob Dylan is simultaneously too legendary and also not relevant or present enough in the current zeitgeist to register the same kind of reaction or consequences to such a serious allegation.

That’s not true. The media is covering for him. That will change though.

After all, it happened decades ago

So was the Holocaust.

This is a man known for protest songs who was singing about Black men being killed by officers on the road decades before videos of it galvanized an entire race of people in America.

There are whole generations of people who have never heard about and don’t care about his protests. After this gets more exposure, nothing he says will mean anything.

He didn’t even respond to winning the Nobel Prize a few years ago

For literature, not surprising. :face_with_spiral_eyes:

I think he’ll definitely remain in the shadows but will have enough of the artists from his era defend him against “cancel culture,"

Anyone who defends him may find their own backgrounds under investigation. I mean, who in their right mind would defend that kind of behavior? Besides Steven Tyler and David Bowie?

I have to go accomplish something productive now. :grimacing: Burning daylight. Haha!

this is interesting to me
i typed bob dylan wiki
looked at it
didn’t find a reference to it
thought gracie might want to rethink what gracie clicks
wish reg would type something stupid so i can heckle
cuz gracie too easy