The country was not founded on Christian principles.
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Thomas Jefferson was definitely not a Christian. Wouldn’t say Franklin was either. They both had a lot of evil in them.
Oh. Well, what was it founded on? Islamic principles?
Freethinking, mostly. What makes you think it was Christian when formed? Jefferson made his own Bible lol.
I asked ChatGPT:
Taking the commonly recognized seven principal founders—Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Hamilton and Jay—and defining “true Christian” as accepting orthodox doctrines such as Christ’s divinity:
| Category | Founders |
|---|---|
| Clearly orthodox Christian | John Jay |
| Probably Christian, but evidence is mixed | Alexander Hamilton |
| Religiously Christian but doctrinally ambiguous | George Washington |
| Heterodox/“soft” Christian | John Adams |
| Theistic but probably not orthodox Christian | James Madison |
| Clearly non-orthodox/non-Christian by traditional standards | Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin |
My defensible count:
- Clearly Christian: 1–2 of 7
- Ambiguous or soft Christian: 3–4
- Clearly outside orthodox Christianity: 2
Jefferson rejected Christ’s divinity, resurrection, atonement and biblical miracles, despite admiring Jesus morally. Monticello
Washington belonged to the Anglican Church but avoided communion and left remarkably little evidence about Jesus specifically; historians legitimately disagree about him. Mount Vernon
Adams was a committed Unitarian who rejected the Trinity, while Franklin believed in God and Providence but doubted orthodox Christian doctrines. Jay was unquestionably an orthodox, practising Christian. Hamilton appears conventionally Christian when young and near death, but was largely indifferent during much of his political career.
I didn’t. I thought it was founded on godless principles. Ai informed me differently.
Markey ended up winning by 30%. Massachusetts doesn’t elect moderates to the senate.
Looks like Talarico and El Sayed’s opponents are too chicken to debate. Probably a good move.
What about frauds?
Would you vote for Paxton?
I would vote for a fraudster over a false witness.
I didn’t think you’d answer the question.
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I’ll be voting for Karishma Manzur. I’d actually prefer she was governor. I love to see the medical community involved.
Why wouldn’t I? Do I have something to hide?
We are in a spiritual war and you’re making a mistake but it’s yours to make, regardless who it hurts.
You didn’t answer the question. It was a yes or no question.
Good luck with your spiritual war. You say “we.” I’m not in a spiritual war. Neither was George Washington. He would have hated Christian nationalists.
It’s impossible to answer that question with a simple yes or no. If I say no, you know that’s not true and you will happily call me a liar and the father of them. If I say yes, you call me a hypocrite and that voting for a fraudster is against everything I believe. One the other hand, if I give you a true answer from my soul, you accuse me of not answering so I was defeated before you finished posting the question.
That is the Anti-Christ spirit.
Definitely not. Separation of church and state.
I didn’t realize you cared what I thought of you. Interesting. I would say supporting a racist rapist as president is a little worse than supporting Ken Paxton. So, if the reason you didn’t answer is because you think I’d think less of you, I wouldn’t worry about that. Trump and Paxton are definitely similar.
Yes the Bible says we are in spiritual warfare in the book written by Paul. But Trump is greedy and covetous and a warmonger. He has committed adultery many times and is a adjudicated rapist. Convicted of 34 counts of fraud. Held a Bible upside down at a presser outside a church. Lies every day in public and has for years. Might be the antichrist John of Patmos warned of in the last book of the Bible. He is the most verbally profane Pres. in US history.
It is easy for someone to answer that with a simple yes or no, if they’re honest.
No, Michele, those are the CONSEQUENCES of telling the truth. To most of us, telling the truth first is non-negotiable, regardless of the consequences.