Christianity

its all about interpretation
perhaps your chatgpt can do a death count to verify? lol

I didn’t address the death count, Nico. I quoted very specifically and accurately. The Bible is far less violent than the Qu’ran. One of us has read the Bible (several times) and the Qu’ran (English translation, Dawood version) once. The other is a Dutch pretender.

I see you typing, Nico. I wonder if you’re going to lie about having read them. This site is fun sometimes. :slight_smile:

of course you didnt because you know which side has the most

killing and murder is a part of violence, my dutch brother

i already stated several times i read them lol

I love this site, sometimes. :slight_smile:

yes and you are good at avoiding the topic when it suits you :wink:

its easy to interpret words and claim oh it was meant this way or that way and it was only done in a time of war and thats why this so called holy book is more peaceful lol

but when you look at the numbers… its not that easy

gotta protect the christian utopia even when you realise your results are a violent lie lol dont worry islam is just as violent and may take away the violent cup from the christians… in a couple of centuries :wink:

What have I said that makes you think that I pretend I’m better than anyone?

you said you are a christian

Well that isn’t really true. I’m part of the apostasy.

does that mean you abandoned christianity?

Most Christians have. They say don’t pray or prophesy with your hair uncovered means don’t eat tacos on Thursdays (and other such contortions of the Bible to suit their convenience).

No, it means I’ve crucified Him again.

Sounds more like something you, an agnostic biblical scholar says.

how did you do that?

sounds like you have a different meaning than this:

Which kind and how many women and men were and are engaged and consume porn as well as prostitution? From ancient times till today? Ignoring exceptions from the rule, only vulnerable women which had no other chance to survive than to offer their body. While way more men go to prostitutes, as this was not seen as negative. Which alone is mind boggling. They know that most women don‘t freely choose to work as a prostitute but are either drug addicts, fled their parents due to abuse or fell for a man who didn’t love them but used them. And yet most of these men wouldn‘t want their sister end up as one, but they act as that prostitution fall from a different planet. So don‘t blame feminism who wanted to end this one sided stigma. And btw., I am a feminist and I never ever spoke out for prostitution or porn. Just like with equal rights for black people, people try different ways to achieve the same goal.

I would ban porn. Period. Banning prostitution not just for men but also women turned out to put prostitutes in an even more weak position when it comes to health care and going to the police if some John raped or beat her up etc. Otherwise I would ban prostitution altogether.

Women always worked. Always. At home for no money, and if they got work, then it wasn‘t paid good, as in a foreign household. They were exploited and their nearly non-existing rights were explained with that they aren‘t as intelligent and able to work as men but are only good to get children and take care of the house. Yet worked equally hard if not even more. I just need to look at my parents. Yes, feminism changed this. Justly so.

Sometimes it occurs to me as if men don‘t know what they want. If women stay at home, they don‘t want to share the money with them and be in command, because they bring the money home. Also no equal respect. If women work, they are the bad ones as well and to be blamed for higher rents and less children, but those men judging them don’t even want to have children as well or share their income if those women would stay at home, lol. :roll_eyes:

And now ask yourself that question again I asked you so many times already: Why do you blame feminism but oppose that a stay at home mum owns half of the income of her hubby/partner since they got a child? Or in case of divorce?

Apropos divorce. What‘s wrong with an easier divorce? Why should people be forced to stay together, despite they fight once a week and have no sex anymore together? Even with kids, I think for children it‘s better to not live in such a household.

I don’t blame feminism at all. I just note that this resulted in a societal change that drastically affected our reproduction results.

See above. I agree that women working and divorcing is just. It just destroyed the reproduction system we had used for the last few thousand years. (Before that, our reproduction system was pretty much rape.)

I don’t oppose that at all. I think it’s quite foolish to marry a woman who does not work, have her divorce you in a few years after cheating on you, then have her demand half of your worldly assets. I would never agree to that if no children were involved, but if others are willing to accept those terms, let them do as they please.

This was never our way in the past, however, and it’s entirely unsurprising that, given this new reality, our reproduction results are different.

That‘s like blaming the black freedom movement for the rise of crime, increasing housing costs and unemployment.

I don’t agree. It’s like noting that rap emerged as a valid art form only when blacks were treated as equals. Reproduction changed when women got equal rights.

I don’t like rap or rap culture, but that doesn’t mean I think blacks should be not treated equally. It does mean that I acknowledge rap’s emergence coincided with equal rights.

Last time I checked you still needed two different gender to procreate, especially if you want to feed and house the offspring properly.

And again you assess both movements differently, despite both were treated as unequals. If a certain group of people would be slaves, then the economy would thrive easier. Low working costs, higher profits, less crimes, the economy would be more competitive etc.