# USD **URL:** \ **Category:** Park Bench\ **Created:** [August 10, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467 "2022-08-10T21:26:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/41 "2024-12-02T18:12:11Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > I think you know what’s going to happen, don’t you? Yes. Your economy will re-enter an inflationary cycle, no jobs will return to the US, consumers (and businesses) will go without, and then Trump will give up and reduce the tariffs while declaring victory and his moronic supporters will claim it was genius and he was playing 4d chess. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/42 "2024-12-02T19:33:28Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Yes. Your economy will re-enter an inflationary cycle, no jobs will return to the US, consumers (and businesses) will go without, So basically, everything will stay exactly as it is. > [@Reg](#): > > and then Trump will give up and reduce the tariffs while declaring victory and his moronic supporters will claim it was genius and he was playing 4d chess. I admit, people have tried to make him give up. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/43 "2024-12-02T19:54:46Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > So basically, everything will stay exactly as it is. No. US inflation is now under control. I admit that re-entering an inflationary cycle isn’t the only possible outcome. You might enter recession. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/44 "2024-12-02T23:11:13Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > You might enter recession. Thanks for the heads up. I’ll keep watch for those low interest rates. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/45 "2024-12-02T23:21:20Z")
Do you really think low interest rates will help you when the price of everything you import just went up by 25%? ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/46 "2024-12-03T09:54:47Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Do you really think low interest rates will help you when the price of everything you import just went up by 25%? That’s the normal procedure. Its protocol so that is what I would expect to see, regardless what it does. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/47 "2024-12-03T09:58:25Z")
Agreed. Trump will tariff everything or chicken out. If he tariffs everything, the US economy will slow down. The Fed will lower interest rates to try to speed it up. Then Trump will give up, lie about how he won, and his supporters will cheer in unison about how great their leader is. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/48 "2024-12-03T10:24:50Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > If he tariffs everything, the US economy will slow down. So will the global economy and that’s what really bothers you. It’s not American economy. I’ve paid attention to the things you’ve said about our economy. You couldn’t care any less about American economy. It’s the effect it will have on world economies. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/49 "2024-12-03T10:36:19Z")
Some of what you wrote is true. I am definitely more concerned about the world economy than I am about the US economy. That said, I continue to hope the best for the US, if only for the sake of the sane people who voted against Trump. That said, I am totally unconvinced that the Trump tariffs will affect the world much. In 2022, the United States imported approximately $3.96 trillion worth of goods and services. The global Gross Domestic Product (GDP) for the same year was about $101.56 trillion. Therefore, U.S. imports accounted for approximately 3.9% of the world’s total economic output in 2022. The rest of the world will almost certainly retaliate against the US, and will not tariff each other, so we will suddenly find alternate markets for our products. The last Trump tariffs didn’t harm the Canadian economy at all. I doubt the next ones will, either. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/50 "2024-12-03T10:40:39Z")
You’re lying. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:44am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/51 "2024-12-03T10:44:38Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > The last Trump tariffs didn’t harm the Canadian economy at all. I doubt the next ones will, either. If you actually believe tariffs don’t hurt your economy or have an effect on global economies, why are you concerned about tariffs on Americans because you just said, “I am definitely more concerned about the world economy than I am about the US economy.” ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/52 "2024-12-03T10:54:27Z")
Take your thumb out of your mouth and get back over here. You said earlier, tariffs will cause other countries to trade between each other, leaving Americans to strictly trade within our own country. Why would Trump do that? ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/53 "2024-12-03T10:57:23Z")
Okay. I can see your done and I’m certainly used to that. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/54 "2024-12-03T11:26:21Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Okay. I can see your done and I’m certainly used to that. I tried to be done. Having trouble sleeping. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > If you actually believe tariffs don’t hurt your economy or have an effect on global economies, why are you concerned about tariffs on Americans because you just said, “I am definitely more concerned about the world economy than I am about the US economy.” I said they didn’t have “much” effect. It harmed our steel and aluminum industries. We and other countries countered and harmed US industries. Trump relented quickly, not because he cares about the US but because the optics of him losing were so bad. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > You said earlier, tariffs will cause other countries to trade between each other, leaving Americans to strictly trade within our own country. Why would Trump do that? Because he’s stupid. And because he seeks simple solutions to complex problems. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/55 "2024-12-04T11:29:57Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > I tried to be done. Having trouble sleeping. Sorry to hear. Been there. That’s nothing a gummy can’t fix. > [@Reg](#): > > I said they didn’t have “much” effect. It harmed our steel and aluminum industries. I’m sorry for saying you were lying. I don’t think you are a liar but you always try to mask the issues with Canada with how pristine the sidewalk is but usually it’s with a twist of the knife into the heart if our country with your posts of our poorest and most unappealing areas of the country and that’s fine but in truth, America is a big place and you’ve yet to share much of the true beauty within. People in America are moving away from over-taxed areas such as California and New York where you are right, the sidewalks are littered with trash and rundown buildings. Many are moving to the Bible Belt. In the last year, Oklahoma has gained over 31,000 new residents with two new lanes running north and south on I-35 from OKC to Dallas (that’s not for no reason, someone somewhere knows traffic is going to pick up) and 7 new projects, including an amphitheater, indoor water park and a new skyscraper called Legend, Reg. Canada is just like every other country in the world. We are all intertwined with global trade so attempting to imply that Canada is unaffected by trade wars is simply not the case at all so clarification really was needed and very much appreciated. > [@Reg](#): > > because he seeks simple solutions to complex problems. That’s why he appointed JD Vance, Kash Patel, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hedseth and Tom Homan. Their solutions are simple. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 11:40am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/56 "2024-12-04T11:40:19Z")
I have to ask, Reg, how many states in the United States have you toured? ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/57 "2024-12-04T17:44:15Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > I have to ask, Reg, how many states in the United States have you toured? I haven’t counted. Probably about 20. I once had the idea of doing a road trip through all of the lower 48. I even posted a route here. I doubt that will ever happen. Road trips have lost appeal to me as I’ve aged. I much prefer to fly where I’m going. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/58 "2024-12-05T09:37:25Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > I haven’t counted. Probably about 20. That’s quite a few states. Did you experience poor economic conditions, homelessness, trash on the streets and old, run down buildings everywhere you went? > [@Reg](#): > > I once had the idea of doing a road trip through all of the lower 48. I even posted a route here. I do not remember ever seeing a post like that. Are you sure you posted it here and not Facebook or somewhere else? > [@Reg](#): > > Road trips have lost appeal to me as I’ve aged. I much prefer to fly where I’m going. Yeah, really! Whatever gets you there fastest. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:47am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/59 "2024-12-05T09:47:00Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > That’s quite a few states. Did you experience poor economic conditions, homelessness, trash on the streets and old, run down buildings everywhere you went? Definitely not everywhere. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > I do not remember ever seeing a post like that. Are you sure you posted it here and not Facebook or somewhere else? Definitely here. I saved the route so I’ll just post it again. This takes me through all 48 in the lower 48, Vancouver to Vancouver. ![Motorcycle_route](https://bbad.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/ac26e45fa8bc75718403c25d1fc22b5c78cfb5ba.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467/60 "2024-12-05T10:45:02Z")
It would take you a whole year to tour all those states. Of course, a pass through California may cost you a tax and you missed some beautiful scenery in Arizona but I’m not surprised the route would lead through Colorado. The mountains are breathtaking but I wouldn’t recommend driving through them during in cold months. You got Oklahoma right. I think Bricktown is where Legend will be built. One thing that surprised me was your route through the NE states didn’t take you through Maine. I thought you have a buddy who lives there. [Previous page](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467.md?page=2) [Next page](https://bbad.com/t/usd/1467.md?page=4)