# Ukraine **URL:** \ **Category:** Park Bench\ **Created:** [February 21, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423 "2022-02-21T23:00:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/526 "2024-11-06T15:22:16Z")
> [@Gundi](#): > > God are you stupid. Then prove me wrong, Smarty. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/527 "2024-11-13T21:46:43Z")
This could get ugly quickly. I continue to think we may be witnessing the beginning of WW3. > **[The Times: Ukraine could build nuclear bomb in months if US aid drops](https://news.liga.net/en/politics/news/the-times-ukraine-could-build-nuclear-bomb-in-months-if-us-aid-drops)** > > Ukraine controls nine reactors and has extensive nuclear expertise, the report states ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/528 "2024-11-18T09:07:30Z")
Alex Soros has already chimed in with expressed support for Biden’s approval of long range missiles deep into the heart of Russia. If Zelensky attacks and Russia retaliates I suppose Biden will implement Marshall law and we will go to war. [https://www.rt.com/news/607794-trump-jr-condemns-us-decision/](https://www.rt.com/news/607794-trump-jr-condemns-us-decision/) ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/529 "2024-11-18T09:37:38Z")
Hopefully this time the US really gets serious and not that fearful as till now, for that also the Europeans finally find their guts, as we don’t have the military and economical power. But I doubt the US (and Europe) still has that drive and needed vision. I rather fear most will keep on burying their heads in the sand and refuse to face reality and what‘s really at stake here, though. Either Ukraine wins this war or we face a new era with China and Russia dominating. I don‘t think this is in our interest. Otherwise the USA will stand alone and the Europeans will embrace Russia and China instead. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/530 "2024-11-18T09:59:48Z")
> [@Gundi](#): > > Hopefully this time the US really gets serious and not that fearful as till now, for that also the Europeans finally find their guts, as we don’t have the military and economical power. The U.S. is not fearful. That’s why you can’t seem to discern the magnitude of what is happening. > [@Gundi](#): > > But I doubt the US (and Europe) still has that drive and needed vision. The U.S. is just getting our second wind. Europe is weak and cowardly. They are bought out by globalist elites who only need to point their finger in the direction Europe should go and they follow with full obedience to their master. > [@Gundi](#): > > I rather fear most will keep on burying their heads in the sand and refuse to face reality and what‘s really at stake here, though. Most don’t even know what that reality is. > [@Gundi](#): > > Either Ukraine wins this war or we face a new era with China and Russia dominating. lol…you are so brainwashed. Ukraine is going to lose and lose and lose bigly. > [@Gundi](#): > > I don‘t think this is in our interest. Otherwise the USA will stand alone and the Europeans will embrace Russia and China instead. We are always alone. Name one country that has assisted the U.S. during any disaster and I’ll name 10 countries we have defended and assisted. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/531 "2025-02-21T11:35:04Z")
I did not know there was a peace deal in 2022. Biden never wanted a peace deal. It was all a scam and Biden didn’t care how many died. > **[Ukraine war: the idea that Kyiv should have signed a peace deal in 2022 is...](https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-the-idea-that-kyiv-should-have-signed-a-peace-deal-in-2022-is-flawed-heres-why-250423)** > > The 2022 peace deal would have left Ukraine completely at Vladimir Putin’s mercy. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/532 "2025-02-21T17:37:54Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rKBM2kS6B8o/maxresdefault.jpg "A Sad Moment in American History") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKBM2kS6B8o) ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/533 "2025-02-21T17:50:02Z")
excellent clip (i posted it a day ago lol) and nice to see gunda still likes it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/534 "2025-02-21T17:53:46Z")
lol. I didn’t notice. Getting old. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/535 "2025-02-21T17:55:39Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > lol. I didn’t notice. Getting old. lol no worries, worth reposting and its nice to see an old american guy that is still thinking clearly ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/536 "2025-02-21T17:56:42Z")
Bernie would’ve been a great president. The Americans are bent on suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/537 "2025-02-21T18:10:23Z")
Yes, Sanders would have been great. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/538 "2025-02-21T18:13:48Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Bernie would’ve been a great president. The Americans are bent on suicide. > [@Gundi](#): > > Yes, Sanders would have been great. i like him but no, he is 83! no telling what his mind will be like in a few weeks or months, let alone 4 years ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/539 "2025-02-21T18:14:44Z")
Would’ve. Meaning in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/540 "2025-02-21T18:18:37Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Would’ve. Meaning in 2016. nods, 75 years… still too old/risky ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/541 "2025-02-21T18:19:20Z")
Interesting. I don’t disagree, necessarily. What age do you think should be the cutoff? ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/542 "2025-02-21T18:28:54Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Interesting. I don’t disagree, necessarily. What age do you think should be the cutoff? i see it as a job so the standard retirement age in the country you want to lead ---
**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/543 "2025-02-21T19:03:30Z")
Warren would have been great too. Not that she had a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/544 "2025-02-24T08:58:33Z")
I am really unsure what Europe should do regarding that war. For this I would have to know what we have in our quiver. Assuming that quiver is empty and having no adequate substitutes for the US weapons, even if we all would be united in that goal to try everything possible (which I don‘t see at all), then I would say go for it. Shield the bloody sky finally. Send everything we have. Now. For that not just Putin but also Trump learns to not start a war again. We need to do everything to keep that Paris treaty alive. Regardless the many holes the superpowers have shot into it since. But when I look at those coward, weak faces, which are in the government in Europe (inkl. the U.S.), I say, save the few remaining young Ukrainian men who are still alive. No country is worth to die for if your country gains nothing with these sacrifices. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 9:25am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/545 "2025-02-24T09:25:52Z")
> [@Gundi](#): > > No country is worth to die for if your country gains nothing with these sacrifices. What sacrifices? [Previous page](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423.md?page=26) [Next page](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423.md?page=28)