# Ukraine

**URL:** <https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423>\
**Category:** Park Bench\
**Created:** [February 21, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423 "2022-02-21T23:00:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 23

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/442 "2022-09-11T12:46:53Z")

</div>

> [@Favorite Flashmobs](https://discourse.bbad.com/t/favorite-flashmobs/769/2):
>
> Grenzen gab’s gestern mein niggas.

Truth, but sadly they are also today. Putin will not agree to just Donbass, and negotiating until he says yes will do nothing but buy him time to advance into Odessa.

> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
>
> everyone can and will win if they negotiate and agree to move that imaginary line

True, but what if they don’t negotiate and agree to move the imaginary line? That’s the real question. Then everyone can’t win and you have to fight.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/443 "2022-09-11T16:01:01Z")

</div>

> [@Reg](#):
>
> Truth, but sadly they are also today. Putin will not agree to just Donbass, and negotiating until he says yes will do nothing but buy him time to advance into Odessa.

as long as nato doesnt want to send in troops its a lost cause and will only go on and on until no ukrainian and half of the russian people are left

so you should sweeten the deal… from kyiv down to odessa is a nice straight line, everything to the right is for you putin and rest of ukraine can join nato

easy deal; end of war, no more dead bodies… everyone except the weaponsellers can rejoice

putin dies, you negotiate again about the border…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/444 "2022-09-14T10:16:26Z")

</div>

This only works in Utopia, thinki. Thankfully, the Ukrainians know that fantasy world doesn‘t exist and never will.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/445 "2022-09-14T17:59:56Z")

</div>

> [@Gundi](#):
>
> This only works in Utopia, thinki. Thankfully, the Ukrainians know that fantasy world doesn‘t exist and never will.

a fantasy is where nato or any other country will send troops to help

an utopia is a world where ukraine can beat russia

if ukrainians want to keep existing in ukraine they really should make a deal with russia because in the unlikely event that nato will send in troops and that russia might lose then putin wont hesitate to blow up all the ukrainian nuclear reactors and/or fire a couple of their nukes

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/446 "2022-09-18T11:50:40Z")

</div>

Sending the needed weapons would be enough already, as we can see now.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/447 "2022-10-08T12:20:15Z")

</div>

> **[Chief Nerd](https://t.me/chiefnerd/5387)**
>
> NEW - Key bridge connecting Crimea to Russia hit by huge explosion. Part of the crossing collapsed into sea, imperiling the primary supply route for Russian troops fighting in the south of...

Those evil Ukrainians just committed a terrorist act.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/448 "2022-10-08T13:48:47Z")

</div>

That’ll piss some people off in Crimea.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/449 "2022-11-12T12:07:04Z")

</div>

I can’t express how impressed I am by the bravery of the Ukrainians. Both for the fighters as well as the civilians who don’t give in to the terrible living conditions after Russia deliberatedly terrorize and kill civilians and civilian infrastructure in order to break the Ukrainian union and their will to resistance.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/450 "2022-11-12T13:38:44Z")

</div>

> **[No water, power or internet -- only euphoria in newly liberated Kherson | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/12/europe/kherson-city-ukraine-russia-intl/index.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16682602929289&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2022%2F11%2F12%2Feurope%2Fkherson-city-ukraine-russia-intl%2Findex.html)**
>
> For eight months, residents of the Ukrainian city of Kherson have been living under brutal Russian occupation. But on Friday, Ukrainian forces swept into the city and Russian troops retreated to the east.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/451 "2022-11-13T21:10:38Z")

</div>

> **[Collapsed FTX Hit by Rogue Transactions; at Least $600 Million Removed](https://www.voanews.com/amp/collapsed-ftx-hit-by-rogue-transactions-at-least-600-million-removed-/6831875.html)**
>
> FTX was engulfed in more chaos on Saturday when the crypto exchange said it had detected unauthorized access and analysts said hundreds of millions of dollars of assets had been moved from the platform in "suspicious circumstances"

> **[The Sacred Blue Tent Channel](https://t.me/TheSacredBlueTentChannel/154918)**
>
> ICYMI — US tax dollars went to Ukraine in the form of military and humanitarian aid. Ukraine partnered with FTX and invested heavily. The Founder/CEO of FTX was 2nd largest donor to Democrat Party, PACs and candidates, second only to Soros. FTX was...

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/452 "2022-11-23T17:46:40Z")

</div>

Russia just knocked out power in just about all of Ukraine. Nobody’s talking about how they are going to run out of missiles in a few days anymore. That never happened. We need to learn from how wrong our media has been reporting that for the last six months.

> **[Russia knocks out power in 'vast majority of Ukraine' as it seeks to...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-1.6661200?cmp=rss)**
>
> Russia rained down missiles across Ukraine on Wednesday, forcing shutdowns of nuclear power plants and killing civilians as Moscow pursues its campaign to plunge Ukrainian cities into darkness and cold as winter sets in.

I spent a year reading how the Mueller report was going to bring down Trump and then it came and nothing happened. I’ve spent most of this year reading how western sanctions were going to cripple the Russian economy. It hasn’t. The sanctions have hurt, no question, but Russian stores are stocked and people are surviving. I’ve spent the last six months reading that Russia was about to run out of missiles in just a few days. They just wiped out the Ukrainian power grid with missiles I read they didn’t have.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/453 "2022-11-23T18:49:12Z")

</div>

Were they iranian?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/454 "2022-11-23T18:53:11Z")

</div>

According to the report:

> Russia has been striking Ukraine with expensive long-range cruise missiles and with cheap Iranian-made drones. Britain’s Defence Ministry said on Wednesday there had been no public reports of Russia using Iranian one-way attack drones since around Nov. 17, which it said was a sign Moscow might be running out of them, and would try to get more.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/455 "2022-11-25T21:21:49Z")

</div>

I’ve been following this Ukrainian woman since the war began. She tells of life there. No power, no internet, strategies to keep food from going bad, and so on. I don’t know how long they can hold out.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/roWAeJRXuv0/maxresdefault.jpg "Second day of total blackout, no electricity or Internet at all. Vlog 234: War in Ukraine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roWAeJRXuv0)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/456 "2022-11-25T22:11:02Z")

</div>

Some people are rooting for this because they don’t like the president of the USA.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/457 "2022-11-25T22:12:15Z")

</div>

I thought that, too. After the last 2 weeks I don’t know how they can get back to a stalemate. This might be a domino.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/458 "2022-11-30T16:31:56Z")

</div>

> **[LauraAboli](https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel/26784)**
>
> Ukrainian woman open video addressed to Zelensky.
> 
> "And once I thought that you would come and change something in our country. But you came and made everything worse."
> 
> (mind the french!)
> 
> https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel

Looks like Zelensky forgot to share all those billions Americans paid with the citizens.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/459 "2022-11-30T18:32:42Z")

</div>

I find that video unconvincing but I admit there are serious concerns about corruption. I’ve read reports that some money sent to Ukraine has been spent on expensive properties in Europe for corrupt officials. I have no idea if that’s true, but the reports are worrying.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/460 "2022-11-30T20:04:26Z")

</div>

> [@Reg](#):
>
> I find that video unconvincing

It helps if you turn the volume up.

> [@Reg](#):
>
> I admit there are serious concerns about corruption. I’ve read reports that some money sent to Ukraine has been spent on expensive properties in Europe for corrupt officials. I have no idea if that’s true, but the reports are worrying.

I find your post unconvincing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423/461 "2023-01-08T20:14:32Z")

</div>

If this is true, it might change the war significantly.

> **[New US House chief makes pledge on Ukraine aid – media](https://www.rt.com/news/569573-mccarthy-pledges-ukraine-aid-cut/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS)**
>
> Kevin McCarthy reportedly secures his election as US House speaker by pledging to limit future aid to Ukraine

[Previous page](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423.md?page=22)

[Next page](https://bbad.com/t/ukraine/1423.md?page=24)
