# The Environment

**URL:** <https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972>\
**Category:** Park Bench\
**Created:** [March 27, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972 "2020-03-27T15:46:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/1 "2020-03-27T15:46:07Z")

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This is not as ridiculous as it may seem. How do you comply and still quarantine?

> **[U.S. stops enforcing many environmental laws, citing pandemic | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/epa-enforcement-covid-19-1.5512023?cmp=rss)**
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> The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on Thursday abruptly waived enforcement on a range of legally mandated public-health and environmental protections, saying industries could have trouble complying with them during the coronavirus pandemic.

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**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/2 "2020-03-27T15:54:36Z")

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trump was already doing all he could to gut the EPA. This just gives him an excuse.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/3 "2020-03-27T15:56:08Z")

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sounds like a handy excuse… polluting the air seems a weird way to help people who’s lungs are affected by this virus?

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/4 "2020-03-27T15:59:33Z")

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I agree and Trump is a tool, but how can a company both quarantine AND maintain pollution controls?

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**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/5 "2020-03-27T16:00:09Z")

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Why not?

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/6 "2020-03-27T16:01:47Z")

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use the bailout money from trump?

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**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/7 "2020-03-27T16:02:25Z")

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Of course oil and gas came running to be the first to pollute.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/8 "2020-03-27T16:34:55Z")

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> [@MyBigMoon](#):
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> Why not?

Well, I don’t know about how it works there but, for example, here we have several plants that can’t shut down. The staff maintaining the safety of the operation are all classed as essential workers and are not subject to quarantine. The staff measuring pollutants are not and are subject to quarantine.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/9 "2020-03-27T17:01:52Z")

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if the operational staff are classed essential workers and cant do their job correctly without the staff measuring pollutants then they are both essential…

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/10 "2020-03-27T17:09:59Z")

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Change the terms of quarantine and you can certainly maintain pollution standards. Leave the quarantine the way it is and you can’t. That’s just simple logistics. It’s not an issue of ideology.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/11 "2020-03-27T17:13:13Z")

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of course it is all about priorities… are the people that pick up your garbage considered essential? would not collecting garbage for a few weeks cause serious issues to the health of people?

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/12 "2020-03-27T17:24:36Z")

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> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> are the people that pick up your garbage considered essential? would not collecting garbage for a few weeks cause serious issues to the health of people?

Of course it will, but people seem to have forgotten the future right now and are willing to sacrifice everything to defend against this coronavirus. I don’t think that’s sensible but it is the approach we’ve taken and now we get to see where this ride takes us.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/13 "2020-03-27T17:26:15Z")

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nods, guess it makes sense if you can focus and tackle one problem at a time… as long as you can do it in a reasonable time

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/14 "2020-03-27T20:39:27Z")

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It seems China’s air has improved during the quarantine. I would think parts of the USA are as well.

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/15 "2020-03-28T06:12:15Z")

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California comes to mind. They’ve been suffering slow-suffocation for years.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/16 "2020-03-28T11:18:32Z")

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California’s air has been excellent. It’s not the 70s anymore.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/17 "2020-04-01T02:18:49Z")

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This disgustingly asinine move will kill more people than coronavirus.

> **[Trump Administration Finalizes Rollback of Obama Gas Mileage Standards](https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/31/trump-administration-finalizes-rollback-of-obama-gas-mileage-standards/)**
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> The Trump administration on Tuesday announced its rule to replace the "unachievable" Obama gas mileage and emissions standards.

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**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/18 "2020-04-01T02:25:48Z")

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from the article -

This rule reflects the Department’s #1 priority—safety—by making newer, safer, cleaner vehicles more accessible for Americans who are, on average, driving 12-year old cars. By making newer, safer, and cleaner vehicles more accessible for American families, more lives will be saved and more jobs will be created.

They want to take my truck away!

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**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/19 "2020-04-01T02:27:40Z")

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The EPA is now totally owned.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/the-environment/972/20 "2020-04-01T02:28:32Z")

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They should rename it the Environmental Purge Administration.

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