# News Priorities **URL:** \ **Category:** Park Bench\ **Created:** [December 4, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514 "2018-12-04T20:19:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2676 "2022-12-08T06:14:43Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Quit aligning Jesus with fairy tales. he recited the 3 magic lines, doesnt that mean reg is saved now and welcome into your heaven? ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 6:27am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2677 "2022-12-08T06:27:11Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > he recited the 3 magic lines, doesnt that mean reg is saved now Not just reciting the lines. I was baptized by immersion in water after confessing my sins and repenting of them. I also believed then and believe now that Jesus is the Son of God. I just also happen to believe that Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was white as snow. 1. Jesus taught that whoever “believes and is baptized” will be saved ([Mark 16:16](https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Mark%2016.16)). 2. Peter connects the forgiveness of sin to baptism ([Acts 2:38](https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts%202.38)). 3. Peter taught in his second epistle that baptism saves us ([2 Pet 3:21](https://biblia.com/bible/esv/2%20Pet%203.21)). ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 6:30am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2678 "2022-12-08T06:30:17Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Not just reciting the lines. I was baptized by immersion in water after confessing my sins and repenting of them. I also believed then and believe now that Jesus is the Son of God. I just also happen to believe that Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was white as snow. > > 1. Jesus taught that whoever “believes and is baptized” will be saved ([Mark 16:16](https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Mark%2016.16)). > 2. Peter connects the forgiveness of sin to baptism ([Acts 2:38](https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts%202.38)). > 3. Peter taught in his second epistle that baptism saves us ([2 Pet 3:21](https://biblia.com/bible/esv/2%20Pet%203.21)). you poor thing… hmm maybe there are other criteria why @AgeofGrace doesnt want you in her heaven? ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 6:34am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2679 "2022-12-08T06:34:48Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > you poor thing Yes, it sucked actually, but whatever. I did it in the big baptism tank at Broadmoor Baptist Church when I was about 14 or so (I can’t remember exactly). ![4287139947_e92797a86f_o](https://bbad.com/uploads/default/original/1X/26cf292f2a0ab6a7f94326859e8b784f8e9bd769.jpeg) I note that nowhere in the Bible does it say I am not allowed to believe that Mary had a little lamb or that Alice fell down the hole and landed in Wonderland. These are not other Gods and I am not putting them before the Christian God so the first commandment doesn’t apply. There’s also nowhere in the Bible that says I have to call myself a Christian. The Bible just says I have to believe and be baptized, so as far as I can see, I’m fully qualified. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 6:42am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2680 "2022-12-08T06:42:36Z")
no wonder you have these weird ideas and thoughts i know this wont repair your brain but maybe you can sue them for child indoctrination / molestation ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2681 "2022-12-08T07:07:39Z")
They didn’t molest me and I won’t sue anyone. I admit I was a bit afraid the pastor would try to touch my thing but he didn’t. It was fine. I started reading a lot of Heinlein after that. He was a huge influence on me in those years and I regret that somewhat as I now disagree with almost everything he wrote. Heinlein believed in multiverses, multiple universes each with a different reality. I still believe in those, in a way, although I’m not convinced everything isn’t just a matter of perspective. Take the camera from inside my eye socket and move it to Wonderland and Alice becomes real and I become the fiction. There is almost nothing real about reality beyond the fact that we think it is real imho. The world I see is drastically different from the world you see, and the world Michele sees doesn’t even much resemble the one I live in. In her world, a fat orange hero named Donald is trying to save us from corruption and pedophile Democrat Satanists by nominating them to high positions of power and then firing them to show us how corrupt they all were. That doesn’t mean her world isn’t real. It exists in her mind, and my world exists in my mind, and Nico’s world exists in his mind. Given this, Jesus is real. He exists in the minds of millions of Christians and, again, move the camera into their minds and Jesus is real and I am a work of fiction, or a heretic, or perhaps just a prick, depending on the perspective of the viewer. Or I am a believer, as I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2682 "2022-12-08T07:23:28Z")
so basically after all these years you are saying: what is real to one… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:24am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2683 "2022-12-08T08:24:30Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > so basically after all these years you are saying: > > what is real to one… No, it’s more subtle than that. The natural conclusion of that sentence is “what is real to one is not real to another”. That is not what I am saying. I am saying what is real to one is _ **also real to me** _ because I acknowledge its reality to them. Jesus Christ is real to me, even if he isn’t readily apparent in my reality, because he exists (powerfully) in the reality of others. The Hindus often greet each other with Namaskar which means, “I bow to those Gods within you who also live within me”. My variant would be, “I bow to those Gods within you _ **even if they do not** _ live within me”. They exist within you, and that makes them real to me. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2684 "2022-12-08T09:30:57Z")
lol what is more subtle and a natural conclusion to one… is just another dutch brother finding out what is important to him 😉 its very interesting to me how and especially why people interpret things in different ways “what is… to one…” is it nonsense, is it an insult, is it an acknowledgement and a sign of respect? is it all of the previous? is it important or not important at all? as long as it makes you feel happy and it doesnt harm anyone, who cares? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2685 "2022-12-08T13:32:49Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > i believe in a lot of things like non-violence and freedom of speech Interesting. Jesus was called the Prince of Peace and advocated for free speech. Open your mouth on behalf of those unable to speak, for the justice of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, plead the cause of the poor and needy. - Proverbs 31:8-9 TLV > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > no wonder you have these weird ideas and thoughts > i know this wont repair your brain but maybe you can sue them for child indoctrination / molestation They should sue him for refusing to let go of his thing in the baptismal. ([Telegram: Contact @realKarliBonne](https://t.me/realKarliBonne/138609)) > [@Reg](#): > > I started reading a lot of Heinlein after that. I now disagree with almost everything he wrote. > > I still believe in those Which is it? > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > so i have to tell you that nothing is most likely what we all experience after we die Most likely? You’re trying to pass off your uncertainty as a sure thing and you want me to have faith in it? Can you add anything that can strengthen my faith in your uncertain belief? > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > if only all people would acknowledge and accept that might be the case then they would actually try to make things better for each and everyone while they are still alive Again, you’re encouraging the world to put faith in your belief of nothingness, which in my opinion is a big fat nothing worth listening to. > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > he recited the 3 magic lines, doesnt that mean reg is saved now and welcome into your heaven? I didn’t see his mouth move, nor did I hear a word. > [@Reg](#): > > Nor did Jesus die on the cross So what you are saying is that there was no sacrifice for our sins, therefore there is no redemption? We can freely sin without consequences? > [@Reg](#): > > believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. So you believe Jesus is the Sacrifice? > [@Reg](#): > > The world I see is drastically different from the world you see Perhaps you should put your rose colored glasses back on and stop looking. > [@Reg](#): > > and the world Michele sees doesn’t even much resemble the one I live in. That’s because you live in a fantasy world where as I live in the real world where time is running out. > [@Reg](#): > > In her world, a fat orange hero named Donald is trying to save us from corruption and pedophile Democrat Satanists by nominating them to high positions of power and then firing them to show us how corrupt they all were. Yeah, they call him Batman. 😁 > [@Reg](#): > > I am a work of fiction, or a heretic, or perhaps just a prick, I have no problem telling you that your words often give me a visual of an angry man. > [@Reg](#): > > My variant would be, “I bow to those Gods within you _ **even if they do not** _ live within me”. They exist within you, and that makes them real to me. What if my God was a demon? Would you bow down to my demon also? Jesus said: “I am the True Vine, and My Father is The Gardener. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He trims so that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I will abide in you. The branch cannot itself produce fruit, unless it abides on the vine. Likewise, you cannot produce fruit unless you abide in Me. “I am the Vine; you are the branches. The one who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for apart from Me, you can do nothing. - John 15:1-5 TLV ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2686 "2022-12-08T14:55:12Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Most likely? You’re trying to pass off your uncertainty as a sure thing and you want me to have faith in it? Can you add anything that can strengthen my faith in your uncertain belief? not trying to pass off anything but realism… its just what it is; there is no proof of anything beyond death so its likely there is nothing > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Again, you’re encouraging the world to put faith in your belief of nothingness, which in my opinion is a big fat nothing worth listening to. if i wanted to encourage people to put faith in a belief of nothingness i would direct them to christianity or any other religious cult instead i prefer to encourage people to think for themselves and share what they have discovered i dont think its nothing when iam encouraging everyone to live their life in the here and now and to try to make the most of it instead of pretending that their (and everyone elses) current life doesnt matter because they will have some afterlife if they kneel down to some god ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2687 "2022-12-08T15:27:56Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > instead of pretending that their (and everyone elses) current life doesnt matter Why do you think that? ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2688 "2022-12-08T15:58:59Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Why do you think that? its like using a cheat when playing a videogame… it doesnt matter what you do, who you kill or if you die? you have unlimited lives… ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2689 "2022-12-08T17:55:17Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > “what is… to one…” > is it nonsense, is it an insult, is it an acknowledgement and a sign of respect? is it all of the previous? is it important or not important at all? > as long as it makes you feel happy and it doesnt harm anyone, who cares? Yes, Nico. Your world view is simplistic nonsense. A simple assessment of a complex problem, which is your usual way. Free speech is absolute, people who suicide are cowards, etc. You don’t do shades of grey. I do. And who cares? Again, I do. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > > [@Reg](#): > > > > I started reading a lot of Heinlein after that. I now disagree with almost everything he wrote. > > > > I still believe in those > > Which is it? Heinlein wrote about more than multiverses, Michele, so it’s both. He was a right wing, free-enterprise worshipping, libertarian gun nut. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > > [@Reg](#): > > > > Nor did Jesus die on the cross > > So what you are saying is that there was no sacrifice for our sins, therefore there is no redemption? We can freely sin without consequences? Don’t misquote me, Michele. I wrote “Alice didn’t fall down the hole in the same reality that Odysseus shot his arrow. Nor did Jesus die on the cross in the same reality as either.” > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > So you believe Jesus is the Sacrifice? Yes. In the minds of millions of Christians, Jesus is the Sacrifice, therefore he is. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > I have no problem telling you that your words often give me a visual of an angry man. Interesting, as I’m not angry at all, except when I drive too much which I try to avoid. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2690 "2022-12-08T19:04:46Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Yes, Nico. Your world view is simplistic nonsense. A simple assessment of a complex problem, which is your usual way. Free speech is absolute, people who suicide are cowards, etc. You don’t do shades of grey. I do. And who cares? Again, I do. ah yes making elephants out of mosquitos is not an ability that i possess lol i prefer to call things as i see them instead of being wishy washy ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2691 "2022-12-08T19:09:03Z")
interesting > **[Say hello to the toughest material on Earth](https://phys.org/news/2022-12-toughest-material-earth.html)** > > Scientists have measured the highest toughness ever recorded, of any material, while investigating a metallic alloy made of chromium, cobalt, and nickel (CrCoNi). Not only is the metal extremely ductile—which, in materials science, means highly... ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2692 "2022-12-09T00:29:13Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > its like using a cheat when playing a videogame… it doesnt matter what you do, who you kill or if you die? > you have unlimited lives… Where did you get that idea? > [@Reg](#): > > Heinlein wrote about more than multiverses, Michele, so it’s both. He was a right wing, free-enterprise worshipping, libertarian gun nut. So Heinlein is your god? > [@Reg](#): > > Don’t misquote me, Michele. I wrote “Alice didn’t fall down the hole in the same reality that Odysseus shot his arrow. Nor did Jesus die on the cross in the same reality as either.” I quoted you word for word in search of clarity I still don’t have. > [@Reg](#): > > Yes. In the minds of millions of Christians, Jesus is the Sacrifice, therefore he is. What about in your mind, Reg? So far, you’ve shared Heinlein, many Christian minds and reposted a quote. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2693 "2022-12-09T00:34:57Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > I quoted you word for word in search of clarity I still don’t have. You quoted me out of context and omitted important parts that changed the meaning entirely. > [@AgeofGrace](#): > > What about in your mind, Reg? In my mind: 1. Jesus is the Son of God. 2. He died on the cross for our sins and the sins of the entire world. 3. He was resurrected on the third day. Also in my mind: 1. Alice fell down the hole of the White Rabbit taking her to Wonderland. 2. Odysseus shot an arrow through the eyes of twelve axes and won the heart of Penelope. 3. Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was white as snow. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2694 "2022-12-09T07:38:49Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Where did you get that idea? just look around you and see what the majority of humans (majority being religious) have done to our planet why? it is because they dont believe earth is their final destination so it doesnt really matter what happens to it… ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514/2695 "2022-12-09T13:21:14Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > You quoted me out of context and omitted important parts that changed the meaning entirely. Oh, I get it now. This is Hypocrisy 101. If I omit words it changes the meaning, entirely, but if you add sentences, it changes nothing, entirely. Good talk. I’m glad it ends here. > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > just look around you and see what the majority of humans (majority being religious) have done to our planet > why? it is because they dont believe earth is their final destination so it doesnt really matter what happens to it… When you blame the destruction of our planet on religious people, try to be more inclusive so that there is more light on those who destroy nothing. [Previous page](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514.md?page=133) [Next page](https://bbad.com/t/news-priorities/514.md?page=135)