# Favorite TV Shows

**URL:** <https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278>\
**Category:** Good Times Cafe\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278 "2018-09-04T14:03:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1689 "2024-12-30T11:36:10Z")

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> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> in that clip Gervais lied to the little boy.

what is a lie to one… what do you think he lied about?

> [@Reg](#):
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> It is the exact same as the thought process of a religious person. Neither sees the only real truth, “We do not know.”

there is no only one real truth, there are lots of them 😉

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1690 "2024-12-30T15:00:40Z")

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> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> what do you think he lied about?

I don’t think he lied. He straight up lied according to his own belief. Why would an atheist tell anyone Heaven is real? That’s completely contradictory to their faith, which, technically, is in nothing.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1691 "2024-12-30T16:38:34Z")

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> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> Why would an atheist tell anyone Heaven is real? That’s completely contradictory to their faith, which, technically, is in nothing.

it all depends how you look at it; your heaven doesnt need to be the same as his? or to quote a classic (awful) song: “heaven is a place on earth”

if heaven exists in your (delusional) mind, then it can also exist in others and thus also in his (delusional) mind; maybe he believes his heaven is at the house where his wife used to live and where his dog is waiting for him… or maybe he pretends his wife is still around there, so its his heaven?

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1692 "2024-12-30T18:36:19Z")

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> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> your heaven doesnt need to be the same as his?

Yes, it does.

> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> if heaven exists in your (delusional) mind, then it can also exist in others and thus also in his (delusional) mind

Not if it’s not the same “Heaven”.

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> maybe he believes his heaven is at the house where his wife used to live and where his dog is waiting for him…

…to be petted. Sounds like Heaven, for a dog.

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> or maybe he pretends his wife is still around there, so its his heaven?

Heaven is sitting in an empty room thinking about a woman that isn’t there?

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1693 "2024-12-30T18:39:54Z")

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> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> Yes, it does.

why is that? you got it trademarked?

> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> Not if it’s not the same “Heaven”.

so there are different heavens!

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> …to be petted. Sounds like Heaven, for a dog.

i heard some humans pay big money to be petted or leashed

> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> Heaven is sitting in an empty room thinking about a woman that isn’t there?

thinking about a woman that isnt there or a god that isnt there… same difference to me…

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1694 "2024-12-30T18:47:59Z")

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> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> why is that? you got it trademarked?

No.

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> so there are different heavens!

No.

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> i heard some humans pay big money to be petted or leashed

Pay-for-Heaven? Weird!

> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> thinking about a woman that isnt there or a god that isnt there… same difference to me…

Yes, I thought that’s where you were going. If that’s Heaven to you, I wish you the best.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1695 "2024-12-30T18:59:40Z")

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> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> Pay-for-Heaven? Weird!

yes! why pay when you can just pretend for free!

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> f that’s Heaven to you, I wish you the best.

thx! but to me its just a place people make up in their minds to make themselves feel better

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**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 7:04am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1696 "2024-12-31T07:04:48Z")

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> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> But…in that clip Gervais lied to the little boy. Is that how you deal with it?

Yes, and I wouldn’t just lie about heaven (and only about that) to a deadly sick child but to any child. It’s just like I never would tell a child that Santa Claus (or rather our Bavarian Christkind) doesn’t bring the gifts cause they don’t exist. Eventually, the children realize it with age anyway. If society gives that freedom (which most Muslim countries don‘t). This is a harmless lie (guess the English speaking people call it a white lie). I certainly wouldn‘t lie if that same very child would say something racist, sexist or misogynist because some religion said so or if it asks me about some other religious stuff, because I think a lie here has the potential to cause plenty of harm.

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**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1697 "2024-12-31T07:37:26Z")

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Update on the tv section. I stand corrected, as I tried again and 3sat brings a concert of Billy Joel in Long Island from 1982, lol. On Silvester that public broadcaster brings concerts all day. Usually I always pick a two or three. Guess Sting and Springsteen will be on their list as well. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1698 "2024-12-31T08:23:30Z")

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> [@Reg](#):
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> I didn’t watch the clip but I am pleased to see Gunda’s Lucifer obsession starting to wane.

I will never stop loving Tom Ellis in Lucifer and Miranda and always watch some clips if I am in the mood for wanting to laugh and be entertained by some handsome guy I even personally find very likeable. I didn’t like to watch him in other flicks yet due to changes in his looks which unfortunately takes away most of the charm and charisma. But here he looks and sounds fantastic and the scenes are funny too. A combination hardly found. 🙃

I think I haven‘t posted this flick yet.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cVtjnY8q3BY/maxresdefault.jpg "Lucifer Reveals Himself To Charlotte Richards!!!!!!! (finally) – Lucifer 3x19") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVtjnY8q3BY)

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**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 8:50am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1699 "2024-12-31T08:50:55Z")

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> [@Reg](#):
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> It is the exact same as the thought process of a religious person. Neither sees the only real truth, “We do not know.”

Nonsense. You interprete once again something into the definition of a word which isn’t there.

Definition of Atheism by Merriam Webster:  
A lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods. Or a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods.

The lack of belief or strong disbelief isn‘t synonym to knowing. I also never heard or read any Atheist claiming to know that no God exists. I don‘t exclude there might exist someone who does, but that doesn‘t mean that’s what Atheism is.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:46am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1700 "2024-12-31T09:46:26Z")

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> [@Gundi](#):
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> Nonsense. You interprete once again something into the definition of a word which isn’t there.
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> Definition of Atheism by Merriam Webster:  
> A lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods. Or a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods.

We have had this debate before. I admit that some people (incorrectly) use Atheism to mean a lack of belief in God. I assert that the original (and correct) definition is the explicit denial of the existence of a God. The very word Atheist means one who denies the existence of a God.

> The term _atheist_ (from the French _[athée](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ath%C3%A9e)_), in the sense of “one who … denies the existence of God or gods”,[[37]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#cite_note-37) predates _atheism_ in English, being first found as early as 1566.

> **[Atheism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism)**
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> Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which is the belief that at least one deity exists.
> Historically, evidence of atheistic viewpoints can be traced back to classical antiquity and early Indian philosophy. In the Western world, atheism declined a...

I would also note that we have another perfectly good word for those who lack a belief in God, namely Agnostic. It is foolish to compromise the original clear meaning of Atheist to include Agnostics when the language is far better served by leaving this distinction in place, along with the additional linguistic clarity that it brings.

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**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1701 "2024-12-31T09:53:52Z")

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You used the word „know“ in your reply to Michele, Reggie. And also in your alternative definition to Merriam Webster, there is no such word to describe it. Again, I as all Atheists I ever read about or personally know, ever claimed to know that no God exists. Just like I do, they say it‘s rather likely or that they believe so, but they don‘t know for sure. Do you know any Atheist who says otherwise?

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1702 "2024-12-31T09:57:07Z")

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> [@Gundi](#):
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> Do you know any Atheist who says otherwise?

Plenty.

- **Richard Dawkins**  
Biologist and author of _The God Delusion_, Dawkins strongly argues that the concept of God is highly improbable and critiques religion as a delusion.

- **Christopher Hitchens**  
The late journalist and author of _God Is Not Great_, Hitchens firmly denied the existence of God and was a vocal critic of organized religion.

- **Sam Harris**  
Neuroscientist and author of _The End of Faith_, Harris explicitly denies God’s existence and critiques the incompatibility of religion with science and reason.

- **Daniel Dennett**  
Philosopher and author of _Breaking the Spell_, Dennett argues against religious belief and denies the existence of supernatural beings, including God.

- **Bertrand Russell**  
Philosopher and author of _Why I Am Not a Christian_, Russell explicitly denied the existence of God and considered religious belief intellectually unfounded.

- **A.C. Grayling**  
Philosopher and author of _The God Argument_, Grayling denies the existence of God and advocates for secular humanism as an alternative to religion.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1703 "2024-12-31T09:58:19Z")

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> [@Reg](#):
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> Plenty.

lol like talking to chatgpt

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1704 "2024-12-31T09:59:48Z")

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Absolutely. Fastest way to compile the list she asked for.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 10:01am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1705 "2024-12-31T10:01:44Z")

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> [@Reg](#):
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> Absolutely. Fastest way to compile the list she asked for.

lol i think she asked if you knew, not if chatgpt knows

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1706 "2024-12-31T10:05:01Z")

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> [@thinkingaboutit](#):
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> lol i think she asked if you knew, not if chatgpt knows

If someone asks me “do you know where the library is?” and I look it up on my cell phone and tell them, they’re probably not going to say “wait, I asked if you knew, not if Google knew”. Unless they happen to be an irritating Dutch heckler.

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**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1707 "2024-12-31T10:07:15Z")

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yes, that would indeed be an incorrect answer to the question

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**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/favorite-tv-shows/278/1708 "2024-12-31T10:09:15Z")

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That‘s a nice list, Reggie, but I deny the existence of a God as well, despite I don‘t claim to know it. So, please post a video or link a quote where they explicitly say to know that there does no God exist.

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