# Europe shall abandon misunderstood tolerance **URL:** \ **Category:** Park Bench\ **Created:** [November 4, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080 "2020-11-04T10:27:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/83 "2022-11-06T20:20:09Z")
lol even if you want it to work that way, thats not how things work in reality; in the real world the majority always influences the minorities the most the majority of malaysia has been muslim for quite some time? and only a very small percentage has no religion ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/84 "2022-11-06T20:51:51Z")
> [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > in the real world the majority always influences the minorities the most Dear God, are you really that naive? > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > the majority of malaysia has been muslim for quite some time? Malaysia is 60% Muslim. 40% are not. By your logic, the liberal Muslims should be gaining traction and with each passing year, Malaysia should be more liberal. Instead, they will cane you if you are a Muslim caught with alcohol. Your fantasy isn’t coming true. I don’t really care. While I hate the idea of Muslims gaining further footholds, I like the idea of Germany and the Netherlands being bred out of existence, so I win (and lose) either way. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/85 "2022-11-06T21:48:20Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > > [@thinkingaboutit](#): > > > > in the real world the majority always influences the minorities the most > > Dear God, are you really that naive? no need to get insulting and call me an imaginary divine being 😉 but the answer is obviously yes > [@Reg](#): > > Malaysia is 60% Muslim. 40% are not. By your logic, the liberal Muslims should be gaining traction and with each passing year, Malaysia should be more liberal. Instead, they will cane you if you are a Muslim caught with alcohol. Your fantasy isn’t coming true. uhm no… your caning example and mention of discrimination against atheists and restrictions on other forms of islam in this wiki: > **[Religion in Malaysia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Malaysia)** > > Religion in Malaysia (2020) > Islam is the state religion of Malaysia, as per Article 3 of the Constitution. Meanwhile, other religions can be practised by non-Malay citizens of the country. In addition, per Article 160, one must be Muslim to be considered Malay. As of the 2020 Population and Housing Census, 63.5 percent of the population practices Islam; 18.7 percent Buddhism; 9.1 percent Christianity; 6.1 percent Hinduism; and 2.7 percent other religion or gave no information. The remainder i... shows that the (muslim) majority of malaysia and its government isnt really liberal or in favour of freedom of (non-)religion and thus follows my logic that it wont become more liberal soon ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/86 "2022-11-06T23:01:03Z")
So when the Netherlands reaches 60% Muslims, you won’t become more liberal soon either. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:05am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/87 "2022-11-07T07:05:11Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > So when the Netherlands reaches 60% Muslims, you won’t become more liberal soon either. lol no because if that should happen those 60% would have been influenced by the former majority of liberals and thus have become liberal muslims 😉 now if you would drop 25 million strict muslims in the netherlands then they would instantly become the majority and indeed they wouldnt become more liberal soon ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/88 "2022-11-08T12:22:05Z")
Mindless babble that serves no one. Gunda’s confession was the only intelligent words spoken. > [@Gundi](#): > > And then they wonder why even people like me, who always voted left, now votes far right. Amen! The idiots running our world are trying to destroy everything and create something new and foreign to the entire world. The Word is clear that it will happen. Instead of these, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not acknowledge he will honor with gold, silver, precious stones, and costly things. He will attack strong fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will give them authority over many and will parcel out land for a price. - Daniel 11:38-39 TLV > **[“Returning to Sinai” — A Prophetic Call for Climate Justice and Ceremony of...](https://interfaithsustain.com/returning-to-mt-sinai/)** > > Between November 6th and 18th, 2022, the UN climate conference COP 27 will take place on the Sinai Peninsula, in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt. Religious communities and religious leaders have a key role to play in addressing climate change and climate... Religion is now globally of creation and not the Creator, as foretold by God through the prophets. They traded the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creation rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. - Romans 1:25 TLV They are set to change the Holy Commandments for the cause of climate change. _As an ancient sacred space, it was the site of prophetic experience, and receiving God’s message, for the prophets Moses and Elijah in all three Abrahamic traditions, and the prophet Muhammed in the Muslim tradition. COP 27 taking place in Sinai can remind humanity of our sacred responsibility to care for God’s **creation**._ 10 Universal Commandments that even radical Muslims will submit to. If you think it won’t happen, you are a fool. It’s already happening. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/89 "2022-11-08T13:19:04Z")
perhaps after the shocking realisation she is now on the same side as you… gunda might come to her senses 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/90 "2022-12-06T18:56:15Z")
I came to my senses indeed. I learned that idiots stay idiots for good. That‘s why I rather focus on my family and helping animals. Any of them are more worth my time than anyone on this board. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/91 "2022-12-06T20:36:36Z")
> [@Gundi](#): > > I came to my senses indeed. I learned that idiots stay idiots for good. That‘s why I rather focus on my family and helping animals. Any of them are more worth my time than anyone on this board. guess you could always pretend or start praying that your family members and animals dont vote left or even worse become idiots on a forum lol ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:01am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/92 "2022-12-07T00:01:15Z")
Seems I hit a nerve, lol. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/93 "2022-12-07T05:08:14Z")
lol not at all… i quite agree its healthier for all involved to focus time and energy on people and things you enjoy was just wondering what you would do if some of your family members start believing in and doing other things than you, will you try to stop seeing and caring about them? hate them? ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/94 "2022-12-14T11:56:10Z")
That depends how extreme they are and how they would treat me. If some member of my family suddenly would absorb a hateful extremist mindset, like for example that women are subordinate to men, or become a religious nut, regardless which confession that is, then I certainly wouldn‘t like them as much anymore. But contrary to friends, which I would abbandon, I can‘t deny my kinship to such a family member. I would do less if nothing for them, though. But it really depends how extremist and intolerant such a person is. I certainly wouldn‘t let that person treat me or other people disrespectfully. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/95 "2022-12-14T12:32:29Z")
> [@Gundi](#): > > That depends how extreme they are and how they would treat me. If some member of my family suddenly would absorb a hateful extremist mindset, like for example that women are subordinate to men, or become a religious nut, regardless which confession that is, then I certainly wouldn‘t like them as much anymore. But contrary to friends, which I would abbandon, I can‘t deny my kinship to such a family member. I would do less if nothing for them, though. But it really depends how extremist and intolerant such a person is. I certainly wouldn‘t let that person treat me or other people disrespectfully. interesting, so how would you treat yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/96 "2022-12-14T19:15:24Z")
Well, I treat others the way I want to get treated as well. That’s why I have no reason to complain about myself. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/97 "2022-12-14T19:20:22Z")
> [@Gundi](#): > > Well, I treat others the way I want to get treated as well. That’s why I have no reason to complain about myself. really? so by voting far right you want to send yourself out of your own country as well? ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/98 "2022-12-15T15:01:00Z")
Are you really that dumb, Nico? I know you are, that’s why I gladly help you once again. If I was living in Holland, the USA, Tunisia or any other country in this world, rich or not, I would only let in people who either fulfill the criterias for asylum or in case they simply want to earn money, who are a win for my countries society. Both groups should have all the rights to gain citizenship and enjoy equal rights if they got it after they proved for some years, they assimilate and live by rhe law. All others should get stopped from crossing the border by all means. That doesn’t mean anyone has to drown in the sea or get abused by Turkey or other pig states to blackmail any European country or the EU as an institution. Asylum and migration should be dealed with only in those peoples home countries. What’s hypocritical in that position of mine? And btw., I find in nearly any political party some issues, which I like. But the migration and the dealing with repeated criminals with illegal migrant backgrounds as well as the parallel societies especially Muslims built up, makes this issue at the moment the most important one to me. Blame the other parties but not me if they have no proper answer for this but the AfD. Regarding animal rights I am all Green. Ukraine, not one German party goes far enough. Here I go with the Baltics. ---
**Author:** ![thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@thinkingaboutit](https://bbad.com/u/thinkingaboutit)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/99 "2022-12-15T16:34:09Z")
i take that as a “no” then ---
**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/100 "2022-12-15T17:43:51Z")
What if they look like morrissey? ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 10:08am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/101 "2023-12-23T10:08:21Z")
Interesting. Europe is fractured. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mv8bfh5SMlM/maxresdefault.jpg "Why? Because there are zero terrorist attacks in Poland - MEP Tarczynski - speech from 14 Sep 2023") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8bfh5SMlM) ---
**Author:** ![Gundi](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Gundi](https://bbad.com/u/Gundi)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 5:31am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/europe-shall-abandon-misunderstood-tolerance/1080/102 "2023-12-26T05:31:38Z")
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