# Christmas **URL:** \ **Category:** Park Bench\ **Created:** [December 21, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849 "2019-12-21T16:40:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/1 "2019-12-21T16:40:18Z")
I asked for and am receiving the beautiful lamp for Christmas. It will go on my bedside table. Angie seems to hate it. > **[A Christmas Story 20 inch Leg Lamp Prop Replica by NECA | Holiday Gift |Desk...](https://www.amazon.com/Christmas-Story-inch-Replica-NECA/dp/B0000C6ECF/ref=asc_df_B0000C6ECF/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=193177650676&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13897837218145384694&hvpone&hvptwo&hvqmt&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl&hvlocint&hvlocphy=9011805&hvtargid=pla-500436141512&psc=1)** > > $29.99 ---
**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/2 "2019-12-21T20:51:38Z")
Merry Christmas Will. ---
**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/3 "2019-12-21T21:07:03Z")
Merry Christmas Dan. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/4 "2019-12-22T02:07:53Z")
> [@MyBigMoon](#): > > Angie seems to hate it. I agree with Angie. Merry Christmas, Will. ---
**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/5 "2019-12-22T02:59:28Z")
Merry Christmas Michele. ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/6 "2019-12-22T04:58:01Z")
It’s a bit early but Merry Christmas, all. Will, Dan, Michele, Gunda, Daniel, Mark and anyone else lurking. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/7 "2019-12-22T05:52:47Z")
It’s only early if Jesus was, in fact, born on Dec. 25. Was he, Reg? I can tell you and God are tight. Merry Christmas! ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/8 "2019-12-22T05:59:40Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > Was he, Reg? Well, I don’t believe he was ever born. I don’t believe a man named Jesus Christ ever walked on the face of the Earth. There is no historical record of his birth (or even his existence) outside the Bible, despite the Romans being meticulous record keepers. That said, in the unlikely event he was ever born, there’s absolutely no evidence whatsoever to indicate this even took place on December 25. Here is one explanation of the date choice. I don’t know enough about the history cited to have an opinion on its merits. > At this time, the emperor Aurelian established an official holiday called " _Sol Invicti_ " – > meaning unconquered sun, in honor of the Syrian sun god “Sol,” and also in honor of > himself, since the emperors were regarded as the divine incarnation of Apollo. This > holiday was held on December 24 and 25. And it more or less established December 25 > as the official solstice. All other religions that worshipped sun gods also accepted > December 25 as a fixed date for their celebrations. And the major festivals of the > Egyptian earth-mother Isis were held on December 25, January 6, and March 5. The > earliest Christians assumed that Christ was born and was resurrected on the same day – > March 25 – which was assumed to be the vernal equinox. Later Christians celebrated the > birth of Christ on January 6, along with the festival of Isis. By the fourth century, many > Christians were referring to December 25 as the day of the “unconquered son” – in > defiance of the emperor, and January 6 was then called “Epiphany,” when either the > magi were supposed to have visited or Christ was baptized, or maybe both. > **[The Winter Solstice and the Origins of Christmas](https://www.miltontimmons.com/SolsticeandChristmas.html)** > > Relationship of the winter solstice, the Gregorian calendar, and the history of Christmas celebrations. This was an article I wrote for Free Inquiry magazine. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/9 "2019-12-22T06:06:45Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > I don’t believe a man named Jesus Christ ever walked on the face of the Earth. Jesus said, Even if you don’t believe My words, believe my works. What do you think about His works, Reg? ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/10 "2019-12-22T06:10:03Z")
Since I don’t believe he existed, I also don’t believe he ever did any works. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/11 "2019-12-22T06:20:09Z")
Oh, right. Okay. Nice chat. ---
**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/13 "2019-12-22T15:28:07Z")
Merry Sol Invicti Reg. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/14 "2019-12-23T12:54:33Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > There is no historical record of his birth (or even his existence) outside the Bible, despite the Romans being meticulous record keepers. Are there records of Roman records that confirm the validity of Roman records, Reg? Hebrews have kept meticulous records since Adam and Eve. Don’t you disagree? Also, can you explain this away please? It’s bothering me. > **[Tacitus on Jesus](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ)** > > The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written c. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44. > The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in AD 64 during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero. The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian references to the origins of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the canonical gospels, and... ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/15 "2019-12-23T18:38:31Z")
> [@AgeofGrace](#): > > The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116) Michele, that’s 116 years after Christ’s alleged birth (and therefore about 83 years after his alleged death). There are plenty of books about Christ written long after his story was told. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/16 "2019-12-24T12:49:01Z")
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**Author:** ![Ferni](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/ferni/32/4869_2.png) [@Ferni](https://bbad.com/u/Ferni)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/17 "2019-12-24T14:01:45Z")
Feliz Navidad people 🌲 ---
**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/18 "2019-12-24T14:50:41Z")
Feliz Navidad y próspero Año Nuevo, Ferni. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/mybigmoon/32/723_2.png) [@MyBigMoon](https://bbad.com/u/MyBigMoon)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/19 "2019-12-24T15:09:11Z")
Feliz Navidad Ferni. ---
**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/20 "2019-12-24T15:42:38Z")
Feliz Navidad, Ferni! ---
**Author:** ![Tychicus](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/tychicus/32/989_2.png) [@Tychicus](https://bbad.com/u/Tychicus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849/21 "2019-12-25T01:15:12Z")
> [@Reg](#): > > Since I don’t believe he existed, I also don’t believe he ever did any works. Good luck with that excuse Reg. Rom 1:18-22 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; (19) Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. (20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Merry Christmas [Next page](https://bbad.com/t/christmas/849.md?page=2)