# Cars

**URL:** <https://bbad.com/t/cars/300>\
**Category:** Garrulous Geeks\
**Created:** [September 12, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300 "2018-09-12T21:52:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 64

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1273 "2023-01-12T21:27:57Z")

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> **[Taliban praises Afghanistan’s first supercar](https://www.rt.com/news/569782-taliban-praise-afghan-supercar/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS)**
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> The Taliban education minister has described the country’s first locally-built supercar as a triumph of “religious and modern sciences”

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1274 "2023-01-18T09:11:08Z")

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Seems self driving cars have a long way to go.

> **[Video: Tesla car in autonomous mode causes pileup in San Francisco | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/01/17/tesla-full-self-driving-tunnel-pileup-contd-gr-orig.cnn)**
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> The driver of the Tesla told authorities he had "full self-driving" engaged when it stopped suddenly, causing the collision.

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1275 "2023-01-29T19:46:34Z")

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[https://www.kbb.com/car-news/consumer-reports-toyota-lexus-make-the-most-reliable-cars-mercedes-the-least/](https://www.kbb.com/car-news/consumer-reports-toyota-lexus-make-the-most-reliable-cars-mercedes-the-least/)

As usual, Japan dominated and Germany did horrible. Out of 24 makes, Mercedes benz and Volkswagen came in 24th and 22nd.

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1276 "2023-01-30T13:57:42Z")

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> [@NicksCafe](#):
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> Out of 24 makes, Mercedes benz and Volkswagen came in 24th and 22nd.

I’m surprised. I thought Mercedes’ was more reliable than that. They are first in automotive technology.

> **[Mercedes is the first certified Level-3-autonomy car company in the US](https://www.engadget.com/mercedes-first-certified-level-3-autonomy-car-company-us-201021118.html?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email&utm_placement=newsletter)**
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> Mercedes on Thursday confirmed its Drive Pilot ADAS now complies with Nevada Chapter 482A, which governs the use of autonomous vehicle technology on the state's roads. That makes Drive Pilot the only legal Level 3 system in the US.

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1277 "2023-01-31T01:02:54Z")

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They have too many computers. That’s probably part of the reliability issue. I’m guessing most of their owners take poor care of their car. It doesn’t really matter since they’ll get a new car every 3 years.

Volkswagen has no excuse. Other than someone had to come in 22nd.

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1278 "2023-01-31T11:10:09Z")

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> [@NicksCafe](#):
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> They have too many computers. That’s probably part of the reliability issue. I’m guessing most of their owners take poor care of their car. It doesn’t really matter since they’ll get a new car every 3 years.

Their reliability issue is in their over abundance of computers? I don’t understand. How does one “take care” of a bunch of computer sensors and why do you say they wi get a new car every 3 years?

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> Volkswagen has no excuse. Other than someone had to come in 22nd.

I agree and, imo, no car qualifies to come in last place more than VW.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1279 "2023-01-31T16:36:30Z")

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> [@AgeofGrace](#):
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> > [@NicksCafe](#):
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> > Volkswagen has no excuse. Other than someone had to come in 22nd.
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> I agree and, imo, no car qualifies to come in last place more than VW.

Haters. lol. My VW has been very reliable. I realize that doesn’t mean anything statistically, but I’ve been happy. I am starting to dislike driving, anyway. It’s a necessary evil in Canada, though.

EDIT: I admit, I am really liking the look of the new Toyota Crown. I don’t think I’ll do anything about it but we’ll see.

[![](https://di-uploads-pod5.dealerinspire.com/sherwoodparktoyota/uploads/2022/07/Screenshot-2022-07-26-094833.png) ](https://di-uploads-pod5.dealerinspire.com/sherwoodparktoyota/uploads/2022/07/Screenshot-2022-07-26-094833.png)

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1280 "2023-01-31T22:24:52Z")

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MB makes good engines, but some of their cars have over a hundred computers in them. They are working on an electric car that has 350 sensors at the moment. Too much tech for reliability.

Owners will just get a new one every 3 years, so you can see they got a new car. It could also be mostly used MBs since their original owners probably took horrible care of them.

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1281 "2023-01-31T22:26:06Z")

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62% of MB owners don’t keep the car 5 years.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 5:46am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1282 "2023-02-01T05:46:52Z")

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> [@NicksCafe](#):
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> They are working on an electric car that has 350 sensors at the moment. Too much tech for reliability.

Probably true, but there is no way to get to fully automated driving without hundreds of sensors.

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> 62% of MB owners don’t keep the car 5 years.

True for many Benz owners but there are a bunch of people like me (the other 38%) who have owned several Benzes over the years and who generally keep their cars a long time. Guys like me are screwed. I shudder to think of how much those sensors will cost to fix.

I don’t want another luxury car, anyway. I have owned many. I want something safe and comfy. Cool if possible, but that’s optional.

The more I think about it, Toyota makes sense for me, although none of their cars move me much. Even the Toyota Crown I posted above only rates a “nice car” from me, not “omg I have to have that”. It flunks the cool factor test but again, that’s optional.

The Chevy Malibu rental I had in Toronto was ok but I didn’t find it comfortable entering or exiting. That’s a big enough deal to me that I probably wouldn’t buy it. It also flunks the cool factor test.

Really, I just like my CC and plan to keep it. I kinda like that Michele hates it. lol.

EDIT: This is the electric replacement for my CC, due out in 2024. It’s called the ID.Aero.

 ![image](https://bbad.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6fe9878ca2f050e5c5a6ecb2e9025ea9edb14a6c.jpeg)

EDIT2: This is the big electric SUV they have coming out, the ID.7.

 ![image](https://bbad.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b80be1d0275adb7eaf5584fed2f2f32dc4681830.jpeg)

EDIT3: This is the electric Chevy Blazer due out this year. I actually paid $100 to get on the waiting list for it, but I’m not sure I’ll close the deal when it arrives. I just have no need for it.

 ![image](https://bbad.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c4016139d706a5b1fe10485c71ad07b4d9903475.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1283 "2023-02-01T14:29:18Z")

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I do think Volkswagen has nice designs. I saw an ID 4 in the parking lot yesterday. I’m guessing they are fun to drive. They’ll have to improve a few things for me to ever buy one.

I’m giving benz a hard time. I would say I’d buy one over a bmw, but I wouldn’t buy either.

I’m driving my mother in law’s equinox. Nothing remarkable. Quite boring. The cup holder is probably the worst part of it. I never would have bought it. I’d give it 4/10. 5 is average.

Toyota is starting to become less boring. Even the prius and rav4 seem less boring.

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1284 "2023-02-01T16:39:33Z")

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Yeah, they rank up there with your last boring post.

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1285 "2023-02-05T17:26:12Z")

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> **[Republicans want to "phase out" electric cars to protect fossil fuels](https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-want-phase-out-electric-cars-protect-fossil-fuels-1773757#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16756179223917&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Frepublicans-want-phase-out-electric-cars-protect-fossil-fuels-1773757)**
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> The proliferation of electric vehicles, they said, would be detrimental to Wyoming and the "ability for the country to efficiently engage in commerce."

Wyoming makes up 0.17% of the usa population.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1286 "2023-02-05T18:35:12Z")

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How clever Republicans are. They should phase out smart phones, too, to protect bicycle couriers.

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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1287 "2023-02-07T22:14:15Z")

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Honda 2023 accord hybrid has less power than the last. It doesn’t have AWD option. You can’t fit in the back seat. It is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than the camry in Canada. It gets worse mpg than the sonata. Fail.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UwYHMPZukKw/maxresdefault.jpg "Honda's 2023 Accord Is All-In On Hybrids And Big Screens") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwYHMPZukKw)

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1288 "2023-02-07T22:30:38Z")

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The thing with hybrids and EVs these days is that you can introduce anything, no matter how bad, and people will buy it just to avoid the 2 year wait for anything good.

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**Author:** ![AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AgeofGrace](https://bbad.com/u/AgeofGrace)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1289 "2023-02-08T10:46:50Z")

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Who says people are going to get something good in two years? The cost is too high and it takes too long for a charge. The whole thing is completely overrated. I once drove a Tesla belonging to one of my Airbnber’s. The only thing I was impressed with was the big screen between the seats.

> **[TikTock News & Humor](https://t.me/tiktoknews45/14754)**
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> I will be the last person on earth to buy an EV!!!
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**Author:** ![NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/nickscafe/32/9765_2.png) [@NicksCafe](https://bbad.com/u/NicksCafe)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1290 "2023-02-08T18:17:40Z")

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Is something good coming in 2 years? Are you talking about your blazer?

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1291 "2023-02-08T19:38:12Z")

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> [@NicksCafe](#):
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> Is something good coming in 2 years? Are you talking about your blazer?

No, I just mean the waiting time for most highly rated EVs is very long. The Kia EV6, most Toyota EVs, etc., are all around two years here. Waiting time for Teslas is down if you like those. People are buying badly-rated EVs like the Mazda MX-30 just because they can get them, whereas the waiting time for the cars most people want is still ridiculously long.

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**Author:** ![Reg](https://bbad.com/user_avatar/bbad.com/reg/32/6053_2.png) [@Reg](https://bbad.com/u/Reg)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://bbad.com/t/cars/300/1292 "2023-02-09T04:04:30Z")

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> [@NicksCafe](#):
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> Honda 2023 accord hybrid has less power than the last. It doesn’t have AWD option. You can’t fit in the back seat. It is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than the camry in Canada. It gets worse mpg than the sonata. Fail.

Funny, I just saw one of these at work today. Dark grey, dark interior. I have to admit, it looked great. Very similar in presence to my CC. Big swoopy sedan. I have to admit, I liked it.

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