you dont like coffee, algebra/mathematics, windmills, airplanes, photography, medicines, hospitals or universities? ok, surely a toothbrush is handy to you?
That’s not what I said. I like many things created by Muslims. I have no use for their religion.
That’s a false statement.
sure, i have no use for any religion but they are a package deal
Speaking for myself, I choose to decline the deal.
Of my three options, I choose option 2.
Nonsense. The reasons are important to successfully address them and to implement effective (and also fair) measures for both men and women. Not just onesided, only because that’s the easiest way for men.
I asked ChatGPT and I agree with its conclusion. The measures show a positive effect but of course aren’t enough to tip the scale towards sustainable birthrates. To waste way more GDP per head on immigration than boosting birthrates, which only increases and create further problems, is making everything worse abd more expensive, than anyrhing better. Only if having no children is a significant disadvantage on every aspect in life for both gender equally, that’s the goal we need to get to. Society needs be framed for children. Then we also will get the result we need. And this must include also non-traditional families incl. single parents. Free and good childcare and education inclusive. Better renting conditions for families/adults with children, etc.
I asked ChatGPT: Did the Hungarian demography policy increase fertility rate?
Hungary’s demographic policy has indeed been a subject of interest in recent years, particularly its focus on increasing the fertility rate, which has been one of the lowest in Europe. The government has implemented a variety of pro-natalist measures since around 2010, aiming to counteract the country’s declining population, which is exacerbated by low birth rates, an aging population, and emigration.
Key Measures:
- Financial Support for Families:
- Baby Bonds: Parents receive a “baby bond,” which is a state-subsidized savings account for each child born, intended to help with the future financial burdens of raising a child.
- Family Tax Benefits: Families with children can access tax breaks, with the amount increasing with the number of children.
- Subsidized Housing: There are housing grants available to families with children, making it easier to afford a larger home.
- Loans for Families: There are various preferential loans and subsidies available to families with multiple children.
- Incentives for Larger Families:
- The government offers more generous benefits to families with more children, with increasing financial benefits as the number of children rises.
- Support for Work-Life Balance:
- Maternity leave is generous, and the government has also expanded policies for work flexibility, including the ability for parents to return to work more gradually.
- Increased Childcare Support:
- Expanding and subsidizing childcare services has been another key part of Hungary’s policy, making it easier for parents to return to work.
- Social and Cultural Campaigns:
- In addition to financial incentives, the Hungarian government has pushed for cultural campaigns encouraging families to have more children, emphasizing traditional family values.
Fertility Rate Trends:
Since the policy was implemented, there has been a notable change in Hungary’s fertility rate, although it remains below the replacement level of 2.1 children per woman:
- Pre-Policy Fertility: Hungary’s fertility rate in the early 2010s hovered around 1.3-1.4 children per woman, which was low and contributed to population decline.
- Post-Policy Fertility: By 2020, the fertility rate had increased to around 1.55 children per woman. While this is an improvement, it still falls short of the replacement level.
While the measures have had some positive effect, the rate of increase has not been drastic enough to fully reverse the demographic decline. Other factors, such as economic stability, labor market conditions, and societal attitudes toward family life, also play a role in fertility decisions.
Challenges and Criticisms:
- Effectiveness: Critics argue that while the financial measures help, they don’t fully address deeper issues like economic insecurity, housing affordability, and the challenge of balancing work and family life, which can also influence people’s decision to have children.
- Emigration: Many Hungarians, especially younger generations, continue to emigrate to other EU countries in search of better job prospects. This reduces the effectiveness of the policy as it only addresses part of the demographic challenge.
- Gender Equality: Some critics have also argued that the policies are not enough to address gender inequalities in the labor market or the heavy burden that family caregiving still places predominantly on women.
Conclusion:
While Hungary’s demographic policy has contributed to a modest increase in the fertility rate, it’s clear that the policy alone is not a panacea. It has not yet led to a fertility rate high enough to reverse population decline in a significant way, and many demographic experts argue that more comprehensive measures addressing economic factors, emigration, and gender equality would be necessary for a more lasting change.
So, we need Islam (or any other religion) to prosper? Last time I checked no holy book teaches about coffee, algebra etc. Hell, most of these ancient archaic societies only were able to make scientific advantages because they had slaves doing all the work and the elite had all the time and the resources to focus on science. Shall we now consider slavery as something positive too? The Arabs and Muslims profitated a lot by the knowledge of Indians, ancient Egyptians and the Greek. Coffee originated in Ethiopia btw.
What could any Muslim possibly contribute to our society than a European couldn‘t? Instead from bringing back the oppression of non-Muslims, women and homosexuals, plus crimes and violence.
You just wrote “nonsense” and then posted a long ChatGPT response that totally agreed with me. lol. Fifteen years of these incentives resulted in a 0.15 increase in fertility. Again lol.
no, we need immigrants to prosper
basically: our future!
different ideas and values, nice food, more children and a lovely mixture of cultures
those that were taught these values and way of living will experience a different way here that can change not only them but also their families back in their home country
Yes, it’s nonsense, as I didn‘t claim Hungary applied already the needed measures. I clearly said that I agree with the summary of ChatGPT. The incentives showed a positive effect. But they need to do more. As long as having no children means more money, more status and a overall better lifestyle than if you get children, as long as it’s not enough.
Which ideas and values? The rest is not worth even to comment, as absurd it is.
The incentives showed no effect. They spent billions and got nothing. To spend more billions is to refuse to accept the obvious fact that this approach does not work. You can’t bribe people into breeding, Gunda. White people don’t want children anymore.
And you’ve lost the game already, anyway. In Germany in 2022, 41% of children under 15 had a migrant background. Deine Töchter bumsen Muslime und deine Söhne bumsen sich gegenseitig in den Arsch. Your wishing things were different will not achieve much.
Did you notice Germany now allows dual citizenship? Expect things to worsen soon.
the ideas and values that everyone has but some choose to ignore because they are “absurd” and prefer to continue to hate
The dual citizenship for children being born here is one reason why I vote for AfD. That women naively fall in love with Muslims doesn‘t wonder me, as they were raised to be naive. Even before Muslims were allowed to migrate on masses and even stay here despite being convicted criminals or assessed as possible terrorists. Again, another reason for me to vote AfD.
As people are born with homosexuality and it’s thus not a trained lifestyle, I am not a homophobe like you are. Homosexuals also aren’t a threat. Rather the opposite, they contribute positively to the economy and if they want to have children they should be allowed so.